Comments on: Rotation set - Bondo on Opening Day http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:26:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Around the Bases: Spring is Getting Tedious « Detroit Sports Unleashed http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/#comment-52002 Around the Bases: Spring is Getting Tedious « Detroit Sports Unleashed Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:18:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/#comment-52002 [...]  April 2nd will be a glorious day in Detroit. It will be Jeremy Bonderman taking the mound as the starter with Opening Day honors. It is no small reward, as Opening Day is a major holiday in baseball towns across the country, particularly in Detroit where the tradition runs so deep. And this year means much more than previous years because this is a team with a golden opportunity for unparalleled levels of success. Buckle your seatbelts. After Bondo, it’s Kenny Rogers, Justin Verlander, and Nate Robertson. Mike Maroth, who suffered an elbow injury after a stellar start to last season, rounds out the rotation. [The Detroit Tigers Weblog] [...] [...]  April 2nd will be a glorious day in Detroit. It will be Jeremy Bonderman taking the mound as the starter with Opening Day honors. It is no small reward, as Opening Day is a major holiday in baseball towns across the country, particularly in Detroit where the tradition runs so deep. And this year means much more than previous years because this is a team with a golden opportunity for unparalleled levels of success. Buckle your seatbelts. After Bondo, it’s Kenny Rogers, Justin Verlander, and Nate Robertson. Mike Maroth, who suffered an elbow injury after a stellar start to last season, rounds out the rotation. [The Detroit Tigers Weblog] [...]

]]> By: Jerry Cosyn http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/#comment-51990 Jerry Cosyn Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:00:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/#comment-51990 (My apologies; I think I left the quotes off the link. <a href="http://www.thebaseballnation.com/detroittigers.html" rel="nofollow">Here's a replacement.</a>) (My apologies; I think I left the quotes off the link. Here’s a replacement.)

]]> By: Jerry Cosyn http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/#comment-51989 Jerry Cosyn Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:58:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/#comment-51989 I agree that the rotation makes sense, for pretty much the same reasons, as I describe <a>(in part) here.</a> I agree that the rotation makes sense, for pretty much the same reasons, as I describe (in part) here.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/#comment-51848 David Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:58:30 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/03/rotation-set-bondo-on-opening-day/#comment-51848 Although previous stats have little (if any) bearing on how a starter will perform that particular day, I agree with some other managers that juggling your rotation can win you a few more days if done correctly. I like the righty lefty righty lefty lefty, but I hope Leyland looks at stats like I'm about to show... Key: Dominates ERA of 3 or under Success against ERA of 3-4 Mediocre ERA of 4-5 Poor against ERA of 5-6 Dreadful against ERA of 6+ Jeremy Bonderman Dominates: Devil Rays Success against: Angels, White Sox, A's, Mariners and Blue Jays Mediocre against: Royals, Red Sox Poor against: Yankees, Rangers Dreadful against: Orioles, Indians, and Twins Kenny Rogers Dominates: Twins Success against: Royals, Rangers, Blue Jays and Devil Rays Mediocre against: Orioles, Red Sox, Angels, White Sox, Athletics and Mariners Poor against: Indians, Dreadful against: Yankees Justin Verlander (min of 10 innings) Dominates: Kansas City, Twins, A's, Angels Success against: Mediocre against: Rangers, Devil Rays Poor against: Indians Dreadful against: White Sox Nate Robertson Dominates: Mariners, Rangers Success against: Orioles Mediocre against: Royals, Twins, and Yankees Poor against: White Sox, Indians, A's, Blue Jays and Tampa Bay Dreadful against: Red Sox and Angels Mike Maroth Dominates: Orioles, Indians Success against: Mediocre against: White Sox, Royals, Twins, Yankees, A's Poor against: Angels Dreadful against: Red Sox, Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays and Tampa Bay OK now what does this tell us? To me you have to take this stuff with a grain of salt, pitchers improve, lineups vary from year to year (some more so than others), some pitchers like Verlander have started 32 games in the bigs; whereas guys like Kenny have over 400. Even though all of that’s true, how can you use this to your advantage? I would look at it and say OK, do I really want Nate pitching the final game at the Jake? Maybe flip him and Maroth and let Mike pitch against the Tribe who he dominates and let Nate pitch against the Rangers who he dominates (and who Mike is dreadful against) this will actually happen in the beginning of June. Little stuff like that could have us 2-0 instead of 1-1 or 0-2... I'm not saying doing anything drastic, but when a guy has a career ERA over 5 against a particular team and another guy has one under 4 it’s only common sense to switch the two even if one goes on short rest... Although previous stats have little (if any) bearing on how a starter will perform that particular day, I agree with some other managers that juggling your rotation can win you a few more days if done correctly. I like the righty lefty righty lefty lefty, but I hope Leyland looks at stats like I’m about to show…

Key:
Dominates ERA of 3 or under
Success against ERA of 3-4
Mediocre ERA of 4-5
Poor against ERA of 5-6
Dreadful against ERA of 6+

Jeremy Bonderman
Dominates: Devil Rays
Success against: Angels, White Sox, A’s, Mariners and Blue Jays
Mediocre against: Royals, Red Sox
Poor against: Yankees, Rangers
Dreadful against: Orioles, Indians, and Twins

Kenny Rogers
Dominates: Twins
Success against: Royals, Rangers, Blue Jays and Devil Rays
Mediocre against: Orioles, Red Sox, Angels, White Sox, Athletics and Mariners
Poor against: Indians,
Dreadful against: Yankees

Justin Verlander (min of 10 innings)
Dominates: Kansas City, Twins, A’s, Angels
Success against:
Mediocre against: Rangers, Devil Rays
Poor against: Indians
Dreadful against: White Sox

Nate Robertson
Dominates: Mariners, Rangers
Success against: Orioles
Mediocre against: Royals, Twins, and Yankees
Poor against: White Sox, Indians, A’s, Blue Jays and Tampa Bay
Dreadful against: Red Sox and Angels

Mike Maroth
Dominates: Orioles, Indians
Success against:
Mediocre against: White Sox, Royals, Twins, Yankees, A’s
Poor against: Angels
Dreadful against: Red Sox, Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays and Tampa Bay

OK now what does this tell us?
To me you have to take this stuff with a grain of salt, pitchers improve, lineups vary from year to year (some more so than others), some pitchers like Verlander have started 32 games in the bigs; whereas guys like Kenny have over 400. Even though all of that’s true, how can you use this to your advantage?

I would look at it and say OK, do I really want Nate pitching the final game at the Jake? Maybe flip him and Maroth and let Mike pitch against the Tribe who he dominates and let Nate pitch against the Rangers who he dominates (and who Mike is dreadful against) this will actually happen in the beginning of June. Little stuff like that could have us 2-0 instead of 1-1 or 0-2…

I’m not saying doing anything drastic, but when a guy has a career ERA over 5 against a particular team and another guy has one under 4 it’s only common sense to switch the two even if one goes on short rest…

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