Comments on: Curtis Granderson and his strike outs http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Detroit Tiger Weblog » Blog Archive » Statistical Leftovers http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51561 The Detroit Tiger Weblog » Blog Archive » Statistical Leftovers Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:58:30 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51561 [...] While delving into Curtis Granderson’s strikeouts, I calculated many of the same stats for the rest of the team. Here they are: [...] [...] While delving into Curtis Granderson’s strikeouts, I calculated many of the same stats for the rest of the team. Here they are: [...]

]]> By: Brian http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51438 Brian Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:30:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51438 Actually Granderson's strikeout rate dropped by 10 percent in the playoffs and his K/BB improved to 2.0. Actually Granderson’s strikeout rate dropped by 10 percent in the playoffs and his K/BB improved to 2.0.

]]> By: Jojo SunDevil http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51429 Jojo SunDevil Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:39:20 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51429 Grandy did strike out in awful lot in the playoffs. Wow, all these graphs very impressive, I cant keep up. I just know that Granderson needs to stop taking two strikes and then hacking at the third. Grandy did strike out in awful lot in the playoffs. Wow, all these graphs very impressive, I cant keep up. I just know that Granderson needs to stop taking two strikes and then hacking at the third.

]]> By: Brian http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51420 Brian Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:02:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51420 His K rate was pretty constant throughout the year. His bb rate dropped. Perhaps that had something to do with missing hittable pitches in the second half. I can certainly buy that pitchers were not afraid of pitching him over the plate in certain locations because his timing was off. I think his swing did have a lot to it which is why I am happy that they are working to simplify it. There were a few timing mechanisms if you go back and look at video. When there is that much to a swing there is more to go wrong. I would guess if you asked Granderson he was tired during July/August and that he lost the timing on his swing. I think we might see improvement. But this has to be the year. His K rate was pretty constant throughout the year. His bb rate dropped.

Perhaps that had something to do with missing hittable pitches in the second half. I can certainly buy that pitchers were not afraid of pitching him over the plate in certain locations because his timing was off.

I think his swing did have a lot to it which is why I am happy that they are working to simplify it. There were a few timing mechanisms if you go back and look at video. When there is that much to a swing there is more to go wrong.

I would guess if you asked Granderson he was tired during July/August and that he lost the timing on his swing. I think we might see improvement. But this has to be the year.

]]> By: Rings http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51419 Rings Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:38:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51419 Great research to possibly pinpoint the area of coaching emphasis for Curtis. The question is, "why does he swing and miss more often," when, obviously, he makes perfect contact at times? Is it concentration lapses? Does he pull the trigger too soon and not allow the ball to get deep enough in the zone that he's fooled more often? Does he pull off the ball (often appearing to be the problem, particularly on breaking balls)? Is this something that will improve as he sees pitchers more often and gains experience/comfort? Granderson is still my candidate for "2007 most improved," but it will be interesting to see, as his K total goes down, if his contact % improves. Great research to possibly pinpoint the area of coaching emphasis for Curtis. The question is, “why does he swing and miss more often,” when, obviously, he makes perfect contact at times? Is it concentration lapses? Does he pull the trigger too soon and not allow the ball to get deep enough in the zone that he’s fooled more often? Does he pull off the ball (often appearing to be the problem, particularly on breaking balls)? Is this something that will improve as he sees pitchers more often and gains experience/comfort? Granderson is still my candidate for “2007 most improved,” but it will be interesting to see, as his K total goes down, if his contact % improves.

]]> By: zorak163 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51416 zorak163 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:15:14 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51416 I've decided to throw my blogging hat into the Tigers pool by creating a separate blog just for Tigers and baseball related stuff - any interest in trading links? You can check it out <a href="http://tigersandthedreamweaver.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">here.</a> I’ve decided to throw my blogging hat into the Tigers pool by creating a separate blog just for Tigers and baseball related stuff – any interest in trading links? You can check it out here.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51414 billfer Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:07:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51414 The contact numbers I derived from retrosheet data. The Oswing I got directly from David. The contact numbers I derived from retrosheet data. The Oswing I got directly from David.

]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51413 Kyle J Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:10:20 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51413 Great stuff. Given that the three spikes in K/BB ratio all occurred in the second half of the season, maybe we can chalk some of this up to a guy in his first full major league season suffering from mental/physical fatigue as the season went on? Eyeballing things, it looks like his contact rate was around 75% through mid-July. I suspect that maintaining that rate for a full season would significantly improve his hitting numbers. Great stuff. Given that the three spikes in K/BB ratio all occurred in the second half of the season, maybe we can chalk some of this up to a guy in his first full major league season suffering from mental/physical fatigue as the season went on?

Eyeballing things, it looks like his contact rate was around 75% through mid-July. I suspect that maintaining that rate for a full season would significantly improve his hitting numbers.

]]> By: Lee Panas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51411 Lee Panas Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:58:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2007/02/curtis-granderson-and-his-strike-outs/#comment-51411 Very nice research Billfer. The high repeatability of the contact and oswing stats is not surprising but still interesting. I'm probably not looking hard enough but where did you find Granderson's OSWING and contact numbers? Lee Very nice research Billfer. The high repeatability of the contact and oswing stats is not surprising but still interesting. I’m probably not looking hard enough but where did you find Granderson’s OSWING and contact numbers?

Lee

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