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		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/tigers-rule-5-primer/#comment-74091</link>
		<dc:creator>free mp3 music downloads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi boys!0d4c1b</description>
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		<title>By: Joey C.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/tigers-rule-5-primer/#comment-29720</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely understand the impulse to land a lefty bat, but if we get another OF, where does he play?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely understand the impulse to land a lefty bat, but if we get another OF, where does he play?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve G.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/tigers-rule-5-primer/#comment-29708</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miller should follow the same path that Verlander did.  Start the year at Lakeland, when the weather warms up move him to Erie, if he dominates the way the Verlander did move him to Toledo.  If he handles it as well as Verlander did the Tigers would have a heck of a rotation in &#039;08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miller should follow the same path that Verlander did.  Start the year at Lakeland, when the weather warms up move him to Erie, if he dominates the way the Verlander did move him to Toledo.  If he handles it as well as Verlander did the Tigers would have a heck of a rotation in &#8217;08.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/tigers-rule-5-primer/#comment-29698</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Monroe isn&#039;t up for grabs, but were hoping the O&#039;s still wanted some pitching which we could give up for Nick Markakis, giving us a Lefty bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Monroe isn&#8217;t up for grabs, but were hoping the O&#8217;s still wanted some pitching which we could give up for Nick Markakis, giving us a Lefty bat.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey C.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/tigers-rule-5-primer/#comment-29692</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really really hope the Tigers don&#039;t move Craig for a lefty reliever.  I think he&#039;s far more valuable then that.  I don&#039;t think you can discount what a terrific fielder he&#039;s turned into.  No numbers here to back me up--maybe something billfer can post later--but I think his value as a fielder trumps Thames when it comes to starting in LF.

And speaking of Monroe at the winter meetings, here&#039;s what ESPN is reporting...

2:45 p.m., from Amy Nelson

• The Orioles inquired about Tigers outfielder Craig Monroe, but they were told that he&#039;s not available. The Tigers, in search of a left-handed bat, asked for Nick Markakis but were told he&#039;s not available, according to a baseball source.

This makes zero sense to me.  Why would we say Monroe isn&#039;t available and then ask about another outfielder?  This report makes it sound like we wanted to trade someone other than Monroe to pick up yet another OF.  That can&#039;t be true.

Maybe Nelson saying that Monroe would only be available if the O&#039;s gave us Markakis. And since Markakis isn&#039;t available, neither is Monroe.

I&#039;m wondering if both the O&#039;s and Tiger&#039;s were worried about their respective players hearing about being on the block, and used this as a means to put the rumors to rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really really hope the Tigers don&#8217;t move Craig for a lefty reliever.  I think he&#8217;s far more valuable then that.  I don&#8217;t think you can discount what a terrific fielder he&#8217;s turned into.  No numbers here to back me up&#8211;maybe something billfer can post later&#8211;but I think his value as a fielder trumps Thames when it comes to starting in LF.</p>
<p>And speaking of Monroe at the winter meetings, here&#8217;s what ESPN is reporting&#8230;</p>
<p>2:45 p.m., from Amy Nelson</p>
<p>• The Orioles inquired about Tigers outfielder Craig Monroe, but they were told that he&#8217;s not available. The Tigers, in search of a left-handed bat, asked for Nick Markakis but were told he&#8217;s not available, according to a baseball source.</p>
<p>This makes zero sense to me.  Why would we say Monroe isn&#8217;t available and then ask about another outfielder?  This report makes it sound like we wanted to trade someone other than Monroe to pick up yet another OF.  That can&#8217;t be true.</p>
<p>Maybe Nelson saying that Monroe would only be available if the O&#8217;s gave us Markakis. And since Markakis isn&#8217;t available, neither is Monroe.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if both the O&#8217;s and Tiger&#8217;s were worried about their respective players hearing about being on the block, and used this as a means to put the rumors to rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle J</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/tigers-rule-5-primer/#comment-29680</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like they may be shopping Monroe for a left-handed reliever.  I&#039;d hope they&#039;d get something else out of such a deal.

http://www.mlive.com/weblogs/cutoffman/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_cutoffman/archives/2006_12.html#211872

As much as I love Monroe for all his big hits down the stretch this year, it does make sense to move him and let Thames play LF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like they may be shopping Monroe for a left-handed reliever.  I&#8217;d hope they&#8217;d get something else out of such a deal.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mlive.com/weblogs/cutoffman/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_cutoffman/archives/2006_12.html#211872" rel="nofollow">http://www.mlive.com/weblogs/c.....tml#211872</a></p>
<p>As much as I love Monroe for all his big hits down the stretch this year, it does make sense to move him and let Thames play LF.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see who Miller would replace.  We already have the Gambler, Verlander, Bondo, Robertson, and Maroth.  And I haven&#039;t mentioned Zach Miner.  It&#039;s a nice problem to have, but I hope Miller at least starts in double A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see who Miller would replace.  We already have the Gambler, Verlander, Bondo, Robertson, and Maroth.  And I haven&#8217;t mentioned Zach Miner.  It&#8217;s a nice problem to have, but I hope Miller at least starts in double A.</p>
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		<title>By: TC Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - what do you think should be done with Andrew Miller next season? I read articles where he&#039;s suggested as the #5 starter or a valuable part of the pen coming out of spring training.

Would anybody else feel better about him if he had the chance to start in AA and dominate until the all-star break before being called up? I&#039;d like him to get some pro innings before he&#039;s on the big league staff. 

That - and I might get a chance to catch a couple of Eastern League games next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; what do you think should be done with Andrew Miller next season? I read articles where he&#8217;s suggested as the #5 starter or a valuable part of the pen coming out of spring training.</p>
<p>Would anybody else feel better about him if he had the chance to start in AA and dominate until the all-star break before being called up? I&#8217;d like him to get some pro innings before he&#8217;s on the big league staff. </p>
<p>That &#8211; and I might get a chance to catch a couple of Eastern League games next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But I think Ledezma’s upside is much more than that of a LOOGY. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
He&#039;ll probably get another shot, but he&#039;s running out of chances. There&#039;s only so much you can do when a guy consistently struggles after a major league lineup sees him a couple times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I think Ledezma’s upside is much more than that of a LOOGY. </p></blockquote>
<p>He&#8217;ll probably get another shot, but he&#8217;s running out of chances. There&#8217;s only so much you can do when a guy consistently struggles after a major league lineup sees him a couple times.</p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ledezma can fill the lefty specialist role, and he can do so cheaply for 3 more years because he isn&#039;t a free agent yet.  But I think Ledezma&#039;s upside is much more than that of a LOOGY.  As for Miller/Maroth - Miller will be starting in the minors.  He was drafted to be a starter and he needs to be developed as such.  His stint in the bigs last year was part of an agreement when he signed.

As for justifying Walker&#039;s salary - he&#039;s good at what he does and he&#039;s a free agent.  I don&#039;t think he&#039;s overpaid, and if the Tigers didn&#039;t have Zumaya and Rodney who are both very effective against lefties, the Tigers probably would have resigned him.  As a pitcher for the Tigers though, he wasn&#039;t going to see enough high leverage innings to justify that money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ledezma can fill the lefty specialist role, and he can do so cheaply for 3 more years because he isn&#8217;t a free agent yet.  But I think Ledezma&#8217;s upside is much more than that of a LOOGY.  As for Miller/Maroth &#8211; Miller will be starting in the minors.  He was drafted to be a starter and he needs to be developed as such.  His stint in the bigs last year was part of an agreement when he signed.</p>
<p>As for justifying Walker&#8217;s salary &#8211; he&#8217;s good at what he does and he&#8217;s a free agent.  I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s overpaid, and if the Tigers didn&#8217;t have Zumaya and Rodney who are both very effective against lefties, the Tigers probably would have resigned him.  As a pitcher for the Tigers though, he wasn&#8217;t going to see enough high leverage innings to justify that money.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy in WB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy in WB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 05:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

  Walker signed a deal with Baltimore for 3.5mill/yr.......

That much for a guy that pitched 59 innings.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>  Walker signed a deal with Baltimore for 3.5mill/yr&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>That much for a guy that pitched 59 innings&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Andy in WB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy in WB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 05:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everyone think the tigers really need another lefty in the pen?  Ledezma can fill the role of situation relief/starter &amp; long relief.  Moroth/Miller will be the #5 starter with the other going to the pen.  

Jamie Walker isn&#039;t worth the money he got, Ledezma is cheaper and will move into JW&#039;s spot easy, and will thrive....too bad we&#039;ll lose him later under the same circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everyone think the tigers really need another lefty in the pen?  Ledezma can fill the role of situation relief/starter &amp; long relief.  Moroth/Miller will be the #5 starter with the other going to the pen.  </p>
<p>Jamie Walker isn&#8217;t worth the money he got, Ledezma is cheaper and will move into JW&#8217;s spot easy, and will thrive&#8230;.too bad we&#8217;ll lose him later under the same circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where exactly is Jamie Walker going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where exactly is Jamie Walker going?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/tigers-rule-5-primer/#comment-29569</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smith must have live arm with 99 k&#039;s in 68 IP&#039;s at High A and AA last year.  He is 6&#039;5&quot;, 250 lbs, but troubling stat is that ERA vs lefties is 4.82, righties 2.38.  Doesn&#039;t sound like answer to situational lefty problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smith must have live arm with 99 k&#8217;s in 68 IP&#8217;s at High A and AA last year.  He is 6&#8217;5&#8243;, 250 lbs, but troubling stat is that ERA vs lefties is 4.82, righties 2.38.  Doesn&#8217;t sound like answer to situational lefty problem.</p>
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