Comments on: The Winter Meetings and Craig Monroe http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Scott http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29912 Scott Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:35:44 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29912 I have to disagree with you, Bill, about Monroe/Thames. Thames has legit power, no question about it. But I think with some players, less is more ... meaning with more at bats, I think Thames would be exposed. Last year was probably about as good as its going to get for him, and I don't believe he'll come close to duplicating those numbers. As for Monroe, I think he's a guy on the rise. I would like to see what he could do if he were moved up in the order, fifth or sixth. I think he would consistently drive in 100. I have to disagree with you, Bill, about Monroe/Thames. Thames has legit power, no question about it. But I think with some players, less is more … meaning with more at bats, I think Thames would be exposed. Last year was probably about as good as its going to get for him, and I don’t believe he’ll come close to duplicating those numbers. As for Monroe, I think he’s a guy on the rise. I would like to see what he could do if he were moved up in the order, fifth or sixth. I think he would consistently drive in 100.

]]> By: Eric Jackson http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29830 Eric Jackson Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:01:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29830 Looks like Matt Stairs found a new home. From ESPN: "The Blue Jays are close to signing Matt Stairs to a one-year contract, according to a baseball official with knowledge of the negotiations. It's expected to be announced tomorrow." Looks like Matt Stairs found a new home. From ESPN:

“The Blue Jays are close to signing Matt Stairs to a one-year contract, according to a baseball official with knowledge of the negotiations. It’s expected to be announced tomorrow.”

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29822 billfer Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:09:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29822 Ken - I don't think the statement needs a supportive argument. It won't happen, but the Tigers would have to take that if presented with it. As for Thames regressing, he certainly may but I don't necessarily agree with the THT on this one. Thames power didn't just materialize this year. He had an isolated power of over 400 2 years ago at AAA and 340 in 2005. Yes he was very experienced for the league but the power wasn't a fluke. Ken – I don’t think the statement needs a supportive argument. It won’t happen, but the Tigers would have to take that if presented with it.

As for Thames regressing, he certainly may but I don’t necessarily agree with the THT on this one. Thames power didn’t just materialize this year. He had an isolated power of over 400 2 years ago at AAA and 340 in 2005. Yes he was very experienced for the league but the power wasn’t a fluke.

]]> By: Ken from Cincinnati http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29820 Ken from Cincinnati Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:29:18 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29820 Monroe and Casey for Adam Dunn. No supportive argument. Hoping one of you will do that for me. Monroe and Casey for Adam Dunn. No supportive argument. Hoping one of you will do that for me.

]]> By: Johnny http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29814 Johnny Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:42:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29814 We should be able to get a lefty specialist for Thames. I don't see him getting many abs next year unless there's an injury. Off the bench is not his strength. I'm thinking/hoping that Monroe has a monster season in him, and I think it will be 07. Don't trade him unless it's for a left handed outfielder with better tools. We should be able to get a lefty specialist for Thames. I don’t see him getting many abs next year unless there’s an injury. Off the bench is not his strength.

I’m thinking/hoping that Monroe has a monster season in him, and I think it will be 07. Don’t trade him unless it’s for a left handed outfielder with better tools.

]]> By: Deryl G http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29795 Deryl G Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:07:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29795 I am willing to trade any of our players for another player that is younger and better. If Baltimore makes that trade, I want some of what they're smoking. I am willing to trade any of our players for another player that is younger and better. If Baltimore makes that trade, I want some of what they’re smoking.

]]> By: Sam http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29793 Sam Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:56:45 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29793 I would do a Monroe for Nick Markakis trade in a heartbeat. Markakis bats LH, plays good D, and has a great upside. He and Thames would be better as a platoon than Monroe by himself. -Sam I would do a Monroe for Nick Markakis trade in a heartbeat. Markakis bats LH, plays good D, and has a great upside. He and Thames would be better as a platoon than Monroe by himself.

-Sam

]]> By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29791 Joey C. Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:10:17 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29791 Haha! Haha!

]]> By: Bob S. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29789 Bob S. Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:46:38 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29789 I say we trade one of our two righthanded hitting leftfielders,but only if we can get another backup middle infielder or DH/rightfielder. I say we trade one of our two righthanded hitting leftfielders,but only if we can get another backup middle infielder or DH/rightfielder.

]]> By: Brian http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29784 Brian Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:45:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29784 They should move Monroe because he is likely to be overrated and simply is not that good. They should move Monroe because he is likely to be overrated and simply is not that good.

]]> By: Michael http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29774 Michael Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:13:06 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29774 Let me just chime in that we should not part with Monroe. Who - on Baltimore, for example - would we get in return? Walker? That ship has sailed. Craig can and should get better still, and, in many ways, he epitomized the great 2006 Tiger campaign. I know I for one will always remember him like I do Northrup and Horton and those guys. So, please DD, unless you get an offer you just CAN'T pass up, let's keep Craig around for next year!!! (PS Thanks Billfer, for the chance to keep up on Tiger action during the long, dry off-season! You are THE MAN!) Let me just chime in that we should not part with Monroe. Who – on Baltimore, for example – would we get in return? Walker? That ship has sailed. Craig can and should get better still, and, in many ways, he epitomized the great 2006 Tiger campaign. I know I for one will always remember him like I do Northrup and Horton and those guys. So, please DD, unless you get an offer you just CAN’T pass up, let’s keep Craig around for next year!!! (PS Thanks Billfer, for the chance to keep up on Tiger action during the long, dry off-season! You are THE MAN!)

]]> By: Deryl G http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29773 Deryl G Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:01:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29773 If we get both a lefty reliever and a lefty bat I can't imagine that either would be particulary good. I like just keeping Monroe as the starter and having Thames as depth. Also, The Hardball Times has an article that mentions Thames. It claims that he is a good candidate for regressing. If we get both a lefty reliever and a lefty bat I can’t imagine that either would be particulary good.

I like just keeping Monroe as the starter and having Thames as depth.

Also, The Hardball Times has an article that mentions Thames. It claims that he is a good candidate for regressing.

]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29767 Kyle J Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:26:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29767 Excellent analysis. Agree that trading Monroe for just a left-handed reliever probably doesn't make sense, but if you could get a left-handed reliever and, say, a left-handed outfielder with some speed, they should do it. Excellent analysis. Agree that trading Monroe for just a left-handed reliever probably doesn’t make sense, but if you could get a left-handed reliever and, say, a left-handed outfielder with some speed, they should do it.

]]> By: Rings http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29733 Rings Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:59:35 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29733 Right on with both thoughts. Thames has the best HR/AB average on the team...this is a guy who needs AB's. They became sporadic in the second half as Monroe heated up, but he's done nothing but produce when given steady playing time. Monroe's chief advantage over Thames is that he can play CF, but still is below average production for a corner OF. Trade 'em while he's hot if we can get something for him. It won't hurt us as a team if he's not there. As for Shelton, I appreciate your defense of him. I argue that he's produced at every level but fell into the first prolonged slump of his career this season as he became enamored with the long ball and started pulling off the ball in an effort to drive it, rather than staying inside the ball - and his strength - in driving the ball to all fields. Hopefully, the off-season will help get his head clear and he'll get back to what he's done his entire professional career: hit. Casey is stopgap at best...I predect he will not be the starter, one way or another, by August. Right on with both thoughts. Thames has the best HR/AB average on the team…this is a guy who needs AB’s. They became sporadic in the second half as Monroe heated up, but he’s done nothing but produce when given steady playing time. Monroe’s chief advantage over Thames is that he can play CF, but still is below average production for a corner OF. Trade ‘em while he’s hot if we can get something for him. It won’t hurt us as a team if he’s not there.
As for Shelton, I appreciate your defense of him. I argue that he’s produced at every level but fell into the first prolonged slump of his career this season as he became enamored with the long ball and started pulling off the ball in an effort to drive it, rather than staying inside the ball – and his strength – in driving the ball to all fields.
Hopefully, the off-season will help get his head clear and he’ll get back to what he’s done his entire professional career: hit.
Casey is stopgap at best…I predect he will not be the starter, one way or another, by August.

]]> By: Eric Jackson http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29724 Eric Jackson Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:39:18 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/the-winter-meetings-and-craig-monroe/#comment-29724 I'm not sure you can have a 'it'd be better to move player XXX' conversation without also talking about what they are trying to pick up and who that is. If its for a lefty specialist, heck no. With their preference of playing Monroe over Thames last year, I do not see them deciding to trade Monroe with the idea in mind of playing Thames in left, unless the deal was sweet. I’m not sure you can have a ‘it’d be better to move player XXX’ conversation without also talking about what they are trying to pick up and who that is.

If its for a lefty specialist, heck no.

With their preference of playing Monroe over Thames last year, I do not see them deciding to trade Monroe with the idea in mind of playing Thames in left, unless the deal was sweet.

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