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		<title>By: The Detroit Tiger Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; En-Inge-matic</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/inge-gets-a-new-deal-is-he-worth-it/#comment-65095</link>
		<dc:creator>The Detroit Tiger Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; En-Inge-matic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Myself, I&#8217;m somewhere in the middle. I was a proponent of his contract. I looked at his 265/327/443 line in 2004-2006 and viewed it as a new level of performance. It was (and still is) a far cry from his career numbers up to that point, a meager 198/254/314. line. And coming off a season in 2006 where the the average AL third sacker hit 269/338/442, he was certainly close to average for the position offensively. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Myself, I&#8217;m somewhere in the middle. I was a proponent of his contract. I looked at his 265/327/443 line in 2004-2006 and viewed it as a new level of performance. It was (and still is) a far cry from his career numbers up to that point, a meager 198/254/314. line. And coming off a season in 2006 where the the average AL third sacker hit 269/338/442, he was certainly close to average for the position offensively. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roar of the Tigers &#124; MVN - Most Valuable Network &#187; Blog Archive &#187; officially INGE!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roar of the Tigers &#124; MVN - Most Valuable Network &#187; Blog Archive &#187; officially INGE!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211;surprising power for his wee size &#8211;great range at third &#8211;much-touted athleticism allows him to play other positions in a pinch if someone else&#8217;s groin falls off in the middle of the field or something &#8211;along the same lines: rocket arm of GLORIOUS DESTRUCTION &#8211;also along the same lines: much-touted athleticism makes him a slightly better bet to avoid the I-bug than, say, Carlos, who has already been bitten so many times that if I-bug toxin was glow-in-the-dark, they wouldn&#8217;t need to light the field when Carlos was out there for night games &#8211;all the &#8220;real honest-to-gosh numerically proven an&#8217; everything&#8221; defensive reasons, most of which the incomparable Billfer already covered [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211;surprising power for his wee size &#8211;great range at third &#8211;much-touted athleticism allows him to play other positions in a pinch if someone else&#8217;s groin falls off in the middle of the field or something &#8211;along the same lines: rocket arm of GLORIOUS DESTRUCTION &#8211;also along the same lines: much-touted athleticism makes him a slightly better bet to avoid the I-bug than, say, Carlos, who has already been bitten so many times that if I-bug toxin was glow-in-the-dark, they wouldn&#8217;t need to light the field when Carlos was out there for night games &#8211;all the &#8220;real honest-to-gosh numerically proven an&#8217; everything&#8221; defensive reasons, most of which the incomparable Billfer already covered [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roar of the Tigers &#124; MVN - Most Valuable Network &#187; Blog Archive &#187; officially INGE!</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/inge-gets-a-new-deal-is-he-worth-it/#comment-33319</link>
		<dc:creator>Roar of the Tigers &#124; MVN - Most Valuable Network &#187; Blog Archive &#187; officially INGE!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] –surprising power for his wee size –great range at third –much-touted athleticism allows him to play other positions in a pinch if someone else’s groin falls off in the middle of the field or something –along the same lines: rocket arm of GLORIOUS DESTRUCTION –also along the same lines: much-touted athleticism makes him a slightly better bet to avoid the I-bug than, say, Carlos, who has already been bitten so many times that if I-bug toxin was glow-in-the-dark, they wouldn’t need to light the field when Carlos was out there for night games –all the “real honest-to-gosh numerically proven an’ everything” defensive reasons, most of which the incomparable Billfer already covered [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] –surprising power for his wee size –great range at third –much-touted athleticism allows him to play other positions in a pinch if someone else’s groin falls off in the middle of the field or something –along the same lines: rocket arm of GLORIOUS DESTRUCTION –also along the same lines: much-touted athleticism makes him a slightly better bet to avoid the I-bug than, say, Carlos, who has already been bitten so many times that if I-bug toxin was glow-in-the-dark, they wouldn’t need to light the field when Carlos was out there for night games –all the “real honest-to-gosh numerically proven an’ everything” defensive reasons, most of which the incomparable Billfer already covered [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/inge-gets-a-new-deal-is-he-worth-it/#comment-30669</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c&#039;mon greg, &#039;distort&#039;?  if you don&#039;t understand, it&#039;s ok, but don&#039;t disparage unless you plan on offering some sort of reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c&#8217;mon greg, &#8216;distort&#8217;?  if you don&#8217;t understand, it&#8217;s ok, but don&#8217;t disparage unless you plan on offering some sort of reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/inge-gets-a-new-deal-is-he-worth-it/#comment-30604</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, that doesn&#039;t &quot;emphasize the value,&quot; it distorts it.  I like the signing, but would rather see Bondo get locked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, that doesn&#8217;t &#8220;emphasize the value,&#8221; it distorts it.  I like the signing, but would rather see Bondo get locked up.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Inge would be fantastic on another team.  One that has a few players who work the count and get on base.  Also, a team with a bit more run production at 1B.

I&#039;ve always like Brandon a lot.  However, when he bats ninth, after 8 other guys who don&#039;t work the count and don&#039;t get on base, and he takes that gigantic bat up to the plate and hacks until he Ks, I can get pretty frustrated with him.  And then Curtis comes up.  And I get even more frustrated with him.

There isn&#039;t a player on the Tigers who I don&#039;t see some real value in individually (other than Neifi of course), but I worry that we&#039;re not addressing certain glaring problems.  Keeping Inge is a great move if we eventually add a few players who balance out his (and other Tigers) free swinging ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Inge would be fantastic on another team.  One that has a few players who work the count and get on base.  Also, a team with a bit more run production at 1B.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always like Brandon a lot.  However, when he bats ninth, after 8 other guys who don&#8217;t work the count and don&#8217;t get on base, and he takes that gigantic bat up to the plate and hacks until he Ks, I can get pretty frustrated with him.  And then Curtis comes up.  And I get even more frustrated with him.</p>
<p>There isn&#8217;t a player on the Tigers who I don&#8217;t see some real value in individually (other than Neifi of course), but I worry that we&#8217;re not addressing certain glaring problems.  Keeping Inge is a great move if we eventually add a few players who balance out his (and other Tigers) free swinging ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua M.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/inge-gets-a-new-deal-is-he-worth-it/#comment-30472</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few thoughts on Inge......I love his ability and you cant say this isnt a bargain for a 3rd baseman who hit as many home runs as he did last year.  But at the same time I would love to see him at SS.  A lot of his errors this year came on the throw and I think those would be eliminated with a move to SS (which is his natural position in the first place)  Either way errors arent his biggest flaw he is by far one of the best 3rd baseman in the league.  His main flaw is his strikeouts and hitting in key situations.  I think he will show improvemant on both of these this coming year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few thoughts on Inge&#8230;&#8230;I love his ability and you cant say this isnt a bargain for a 3rd baseman who hit as many home runs as he did last year.  But at the same time I would love to see him at SS.  A lot of his errors this year came on the throw and I think those would be eliminated with a move to SS (which is his natural position in the first place)  Either way errors arent his biggest flaw he is by far one of the best 3rd baseman in the league.  His main flaw is his strikeouts and hitting in key situations.  I think he will show improvemant on both of these this coming year.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coach jim: my math wasn&#039;t flawed, you assumed a conclusion based on my math that wasn&#039;t intended.  I was only trying to illustrate the value of 20 runs over a year:  if you give all the saved runs to one pitcher over 200 innings (which obviously doesn&#039;t happen) his era drops from 360 to 270.  obviously, your math is just as correct, I was just presenting it in the context of a single starting pitcher to emphasize the value of runs saved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coach jim: my math wasn&#8217;t flawed, you assumed a conclusion based on my math that wasn&#8217;t intended.  I was only trying to illustrate the value of 20 runs over a year:  if you give all the saved runs to one pitcher over 200 innings (which obviously doesn&#8217;t happen) his era drops from 360 to 270.  obviously, your math is just as correct, I was just presenting it in the context of a single starting pitcher to emphasize the value of runs saved.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 02:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this deal, however, I&#039;m more concerned over locking up Bonderman than anything.</description>
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		<title>By: J Paul Muxworthy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/12/inge-gets-a-new-deal-is-he-worth-it/#comment-30171</link>
		<dc:creator>J Paul Muxworthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy for Mr. Inge and for the Tigers. He&#039;s been there through it all and seems to have improved every year. Based on what I read, he is also a positive in the club house and that seems to mean something. I think it is a good thing. 
I do hope they get Mr. Bonderman locked up for a few years.

J Paul Muxworthy
Fort Worth, TX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy for Mr. Inge and for the Tigers. He&#8217;s been there through it all and seems to have improved every year. Based on what I read, he is also a positive in the club house and that seems to mean something. I think it is a good thing.<br />
I do hope they get Mr. Bonderman locked up for a few years.</p>
<p>J Paul Muxworthy<br />
Fort Worth, TX</p>
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		<title>By: Coach Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coach Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all agree, Inge is probably the best defensive 3rd baseman I&#039;ve ever seen.  Who would you pick that&#039;s better?  Maybe Brooks Robinson...know what, Brandon has more range.  Maybe George Kell, know what, Brandon has a better arm.

Don&#039;s math is flawed.  He suggests that saving 20 runs over 200 inning would... except that Inge doesn&#039;t save 20 runs over 200 innings, he saved 20 runs over 1400 innings.  The drop in ERA is more like 4.50 to 4.37.

The real bonus is when you add Rodriguez, Polanco, Guillen, and Granderson (I would also add Monroe to that list) doing similar things with the glove.  That is why the pitching looks so good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all agree, Inge is probably the best defensive 3rd baseman I&#8217;ve ever seen.  Who would you pick that&#8217;s better?  Maybe Brooks Robinson&#8230;know what, Brandon has more range.  Maybe George Kell, know what, Brandon has a better arm.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;s math is flawed.  He suggests that saving 20 runs over 200 inning would&#8230; except that Inge doesn&#8217;t save 20 runs over 200 innings, he saved 20 runs over 1400 innings.  The drop in ERA is more like 4.50 to 4.37.</p>
<p>The real bonus is when you add Rodriguez, Polanco, Guillen, and Granderson (I would also add Monroe to that list) doing similar things with the glove.  That is why the pitching looks so good.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Y.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, Rasheed?

Watching other 3B field their position is equivalent to watching Inge playing in slow motion with his leg in a bear trap.  Only one other 3B in the AL has the game-changing leather/arm combo that Inge does -- Crede -- that&#039;s it!  That makes him, at the very least, a master of one. You can tear up his plate approach all you want, but if you watch him play everyday, like I have, you can&#039;t rip his D.  I still can&#039;t get over how he loves the high heat, though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, Rasheed?</p>
<p>Watching other 3B field their position is equivalent to watching Inge playing in slow motion with his leg in a bear trap.  Only one other 3B in the AL has the game-changing leather/arm combo that Inge does &#8212; Crede &#8212; that&#8217;s it!  That makes him, at the very least, a master of one. You can tear up his plate approach all you want, but if you watch him play everyday, like I have, you can&#8217;t rip his D.  I still can&#8217;t get over how he loves the high heat, though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rasheedfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rasheedfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon Inge is the most over-hyped player on the Tigers.  We always hear of his great athleticism, but he has become a &quot;jack of all trades, master of none.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon Inge is the most over-hyped player on the Tigers.  We always hear of his great athleticism, but he has become a &#8220;jack of all trades, master of none.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rasheedfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rasheedfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon Inge is the most over-hyped player on the Tigers.  We always hear of his great athleticism, but he has become a &quot;jack of all trades, master of none.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon Inge is the most over-hyped player on the Tigers.  We always hear of his great athleticism, but he has become a &#8220;jack of all trades, master of none.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he would have made at least 5 mil in arbitration this year, so we essentially bought his age 30-32 seasons for 6 mil/year, which really is chumpchange in this market.  If inge has another year like 06 next year, and he&#039;s a free agent he stands to pick up 8/year over a few years from someone.  

I like inge as much as the next guy, people who point to his number of errors don&#039;t know a damn thing about baseball (and probably think jeter&#039;s a good fielder).  His defense saves 20 runs a year:  if a pitcher throws 200 innings, saving 20 runs takes him from a 3.60 era to a 2.70 era.  

Plus I like keeping inge on the team since he was working hard with the team in the bad old days, and is kind of a symbol, in my mind, of the team&#039;s attitude and evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he would have made at least 5 mil in arbitration this year, so we essentially bought his age 30-32 seasons for 6 mil/year, which really is chumpchange in this market.  If inge has another year like 06 next year, and he&#8217;s a free agent he stands to pick up 8/year over a few years from someone.  </p>
<p>I like inge as much as the next guy, people who point to his number of errors don&#8217;t know a damn thing about baseball (and probably think jeter&#8217;s a good fielder).  His defense saves 20 runs a year:  if a pitcher throws 200 innings, saving 20 runs takes him from a 3.60 era to a 2.70 era.  </p>
<p>Plus I like keeping inge on the team since he was working hard with the team in the bad old days, and is kind of a symbol, in my mind, of the team&#8217;s attitude and evolution.</p>
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