As for whether it was that particular game or not is irrelevant.

i look at the facts this way:

1. almost zero pitchers have had this particular injury.

2. this injury is common among guitar players.

3. joel zumaya plays guitar hero obsessively.

4. duh.

The movement made by the arm is very minute. In the same way someone could get carpel tunnel syndrome from repetitive motion I could understand injury. HOWEVER, the amount of time he would have to play the game would have to be extreme. Furthermore, which is more likely:

1. Tigers star young pitcher injures arm through small repetitive movements of said arm.

2. Tigers allow star young pitcher to injure himself through repetitive violent motion of pitching and overuse or freak accident making said violent motion- THEN blame it on something that completely absolves the organization.

I just choose to believe the more simple explanation.

Pitching is a violent and unnatural motion. Injuries WILL happen, through the fault of the player, the organization, or just freak chance.

Is it too much to attribute the cause of injury to something that has proven to injure hundreds of pitchers a year rather than something which has no known injury history for anyone?

I say no.

I guess you disagree.

“so ironic”

That has fallalcy written all over it. Just because you play guitar hero and don’t have problems with your arm doesn’t mean it’s a scapegoat. So maybe you have more flexible fingers than him. I don’t know. But ur not i Joel Zumaya’s body, so you have no grounds to talk. Therefore, this is obviously a fallacy of logic and your argument can be completly ignored….

so ironic

Trust me, I play the game A LOT and have 0 problems whatsoever.

And I don’t want to see what Zumaya could do with 200 innings. To me, his value comes as a closer considering the rotation is relatively young and stocked for a while.

- He said that Cameron Maybin is the BEST prospect he has ever in an organziation, better than Harold Baines in Chicago and Marguis Grissom in Montreal. He said that Maybin will start in Lakeland next year then probably move upto Erie when the weather warms up.

- When he came to Detroit, he said his scouts raved about the talent in the Minor Leagues. He then went on to evaluate with the scouts which players in the Minor Leagues had the potential to be one of the top 5 at their position in the American League. There were only 2 players they identified this way. (They were Brandon Inge at C and Omar Infante at SS)

- When asked about the imbalance of the team being right handed hitting, he said ideally it would be nice if Thames was lefthanded. He did say that he wouldn’t give away Thames’ 26 HRs to get a LH OF who hit 2 HRs and batted .222.

- He mentioned Joel Zumaya and the Video game.

- He mentioned that Jeremy Bonderman was going to be very rich in the next couple of years, and he is hoping it will be the Tigers who are writing the checks.

- When asked about Andrew Miller being a LH reliever next year, he said no-way. Miller will ore than likely start at Lakeland next year. He projects Miller to be a LH Verlander.

- When asked if he knew William Clay Ford, and whether he could give him some advice on the Lions, his response was “I am not touching that one with a 10-foot pole.”

-Sam

The only thing I want for Christmas is an email from Dave telling me why he traded for Perez and why he is still on the team. I just can not figure this out on really any level. (Sorry Pete)

To Bill and all you guys have a very Merry Christmas.