Comments on: Tigers acquire Gary Sheffield

By: golf vacation

golf vacation — Tue, 29 May 2007 16:08:17 +0000

golf vacation…

Did some of you ever used golf wings trainers for practice your swing? btw nice blog i have it bopokmarked be cuase i really want to know if people use golf swing trainers…

By: Bob S.

Bob S. — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:28:48 +0000

Well,I guess I know where that case of Labatt’s disappeared to.

By: Joshua M.

Joshua M. — Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:59:02 +0000

Bob have you missed me sorry been too busy to get on here and write. Once again let me point out that I said we have all at one point in our life done one or more of those things. Here is my post that you keep referring to and saying I have no character so if anywhere in here you can point out where I said yes I did this or yes I did that then ok I apologize but obviously since its no where in here no apology for you……. Joshua M. Says:

November 13th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
Im just glad that since our team is now tainted with the evil Shef that its a good thing we have so many fans that are saints to offset how evil he is. I know none of us have ever cheated at anything in life, and none of us have ever been so depressed we just wanted to quit doing whatever it was and just go somewhere else and start over. On top of it all I know we fans have never just said something to piss some one else off or get attention by saying yeah I did a bad job on purpose. Well thats all I have to say no time have to go pray Shef doesnt rub off on the rest of the Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmmm that part about saying something because you are mad doesnt go hand in hand with that article above does it??? Oh wait yup its about word for word isnt it. And now that I have read what I wrote I am even more sure of the fact that no where in there did I say I did all those things. Not saying I havent done any of them cause that would be hypocritical of me. Just saying dont point to what I wrote to justify what you wrote. If something in there led you to believe I was depressed and needed meds well thank you for your concerns about my well being. The only thing you said that has any merit was that you were the main one writing about his character, well other than the fact that the very first reply to this blog was about his character you were right I went back and read them (I research things first) and when writing on here I dont normally check the name of the person who writes them unless I have a question for them. And the fact that I read writings from Tigers fans on several different sites. I just wrote in response to all those on here and in all honesty had no intention of pointing anyone out on here. As far as the calling you a cheater and a liar part well I still stand by what I said as far as at some point in everyones life I think they have cheated at something whether that makes you a cheater or not I dont know I think it means you have cheated at least once in your life. Oh well you wont convince me I am wrong just like I wont convince you that you are wrong so this all seems pointless to me………

By: Bob S.

Bob S. — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:35:34 +0000

It’s hard to argue something is ‘apocryphal’ when the subject of the supposed misconception is the source of the misconception and the only proof we have that the original story isn’t true is the same subject telling us so.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:24:37 +0000

That’s not how i read it.

PADRES UPDATE;
NOTEBOOK / BOB NIGHTENGALESHEFFIELD NOW CAUGHT BETWEEN ARTICLES ON HIS DAYS AS A BREWER

BYLINE: By BOB NIGHTENGALE

SECTION: Sports; Part C; Page 6; Column 1; Sports Desk

LENGTH: 900 words

ST. LOUIS — Padre third baseman Gary Sheffield can’t understand it. He really thought those days were long behind him once he was traded from the Milwaukee Brewers to the Padres.Sheffield feels as if Brewer fans still are trying to torment him.

“Milwaukee fans want to get back at me and stir it up,” Sheffield said. “I don’t get it. I want Milwaukee to do well, I really do.”"But then this stuff happens.”Sheffield was perturbed Monday by a column in USA Today stating the Commissioner’s office has received faxes and letters from Brewer fans asking for an investigation of possible wrongdoings by Sheffield in Milwaukee.The fans’ complaint stems from a June 11 article in The Times quoting Sheffield about his frustrations as a Brewer.”The Brewers brought out the hate in me,” Sheffield told The Times. “I was a crazy man. . . . I hated everything about the place. If the official scorer gave me an error, I didn’t think was an error, I’d say, ‘OK, here’s a real error,’ and I’d throw the next ball into the stands on purpose.’ “Brewer fans, mistakenly believing that Sheffield’s quote was an admission that he wasn’t performing up to his ability, have asked Commissioner Fay Vincent to respond.Sheffield said Monday: “What I said was out of frustration. They want to take something and run with it.”Why would a player purposely make mistakes? I’d never do anything to hurt the team. You get paid to play.”Sheffield said the only time he may have made an error purposely out of anger was when he was in the Brewer minor-league system.Still, he wonders why Brewer fans have waited almost two months to send protest letters — the same time Sheffield has been in the news for his pursuit of the triple crown.A case of frustration, perhaps?”I don’t know why they’d be frustrated,” Sheffield said, “they’re winning. I don’t understand any of this. It’s irrelevant to even talk about it.”

By: Andy in WB

Andy in WB — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 04:12:55 +0000

Chris,

I’ve been hoping for Tejada also, moving Guillen to first would give the Tigers the most athletic first baseman in the league. It would also give them the most range at the corners in the league. While Guillen isn’t the power hitting first baseman they seek, that would be compensated by a power hitting shortstop who also hits for average. I think it would cost Bonderman, Thames and Infante/Santiago, but that’s what I think it would cost them to land Texiera also.
I’m sure Leyland and Dombrowski are well prepared for the winter meetings and don’t need our help, but just in case they care, I fully endorse such a trade.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:13:58 +0000

How about trying to land Tejada at short? Probably have to give up someone like Bondo and another piece. The line up would be stacked. Just seeing what everyone thinks.

By: Bob S.

Bob S. — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:32:00 +0000

9-1-92,Bob Nightengale quoting Sheffield in the LA Times.You mind making my case Labatt’s Extra Stock?

By: Andy in WB

Andy in WB — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:08:23 +0000

Walt,

I can’t answer that, this is a family website.

By: stephen

stephen — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:30:33 +0000

Sheffield didn’t intentionally make errors with the Brewers. It is one of the great baseballmyths of the past 20 years. If you can dig up a non-apocryphal reference to it happening i will buy you all a case of Vernors. Sheff is a pouter and malcontent, but this charge simply doesn’t stick.

By: Bob S.

Bob S. — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:28:20 +0000

Al Kaline was my favorite player growing up.Despite that,I always reluctantly recognized he fell somewhat short of the big dogs of the era-Mays,Aaron,Mantle,maybe Frank Robinson-all guys who,like Kaline,excelled at every aspect of the game,but who hit with more power.His closest peers were probably guys like Clemente and Billy Williams(this is purely intuitive,as frankly,I’m not presently motivated to look at their comparative stats.)
I’ve never denied Sheffields ability to hit a baseball.However(jesus,I hate to open up this can of worms again)his OPS&EQA is given a healthy boost by his mid-career power surge, which is most likely a result of performance enhancers.Like it or not,it’s something that’s gonna’ dog all the players of this era,whether they deserve it or not.
I have no choice but to concede the numbers give the argument to Sheffield-they’re there in black and white).However,I can’t recognize him as Kaline’s superior as a hitter,like I do Hank Aaron or Alex Rodriguez(speaking of A-Rod,how the hell does Joe Crede get the Silver Slugger for AL 3B?).

By: jim-mt

jim-mt — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:03:13 +0000

I remember Kaline was Mr Clutch-if the Tigers needed something in the late innings, he was the man-whether it was a catch, throw or hit. Stats don’t always show that and I know how Sheffield is in those kind of spots, but he will never measure up to my hero.

By: Walt

Walt — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:20:47 +0000

Hey Andy,

What is winning an argument on the internet like?

Walt

By: Nate

Nate — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:43:51 +0000

Can we get the discussion back on focus?

The initial comparison was:

Career OPS .923, OPS+ 145. Al Kaline was .856/134. Sheffield can HIT.

The comparison had nothing to do with character, and it certainly didn’t have anything to do with the character of any of the weblog’s readers.

All Tim D. is saying is that, even when put in the context of their eras (Kaline in the hitting poor ’60s, Sheffield in the hitting rich ’90s and ’00s), Sheffield is better at hitting a baseball than Kaline was. EQA, when adjusted for era and ballpark, tells the same tale — Sheffield, .319; Kaline, .300.

We’re dealing with two excellent ballplayers here, but the stats seem to give the edge to Sheffield. Intangibles? Well, they’re called that for a reason.

By: Bob S.

Bob S. — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:02:38 +0000

Sorry,Greg,John T.Baptist taught me to write in paragraphs.
Joshua,it’s a bit of a dodge to pretend it hasn’t been me making most of the noise about Sheffield’s character ,or that it wasn’t me that raised the topic of his,ah,’fielding issues’.So I felt comfortable responding on behalf of all those ‘fans’ who you would deny sainthood to.
Let’s not forget it was you who essentially admitted to cheating,depression,and poor work habits.It’s apparently surprising to you that not everybody is wired that way(my apologies to your parents if you formed your low opinion of people on your own).It’s true,I don’t know you,but I based my opinion of your character on what you wrote about yourself,not what I read in a newspaper.It was you who felt it necessary to project your own character flaws onto me by calling me not only a cheater but also a liar.Uh,Joshua,’you don’t know me so you don’t know my character’.
If it’s true that Sheffield didn’t mean what he said(my own opinion is that it was the public condemnation he received that made him retract his initial statements)then both you and him need to learn that the things you say and write have consequences.