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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/11/dombrowski-a-tiger-through-2011/#comment-77896</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO</description>
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		<title>By: Jojo SunDevil</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/11/dombrowski-a-tiger-through-2011/#comment-24756</link>
		<dc:creator>Jojo SunDevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dombrowski is the best GM In the league right now.  The Tigers got so lucky to get him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dombrowski is the best GM In the league right now.  The Tigers got so lucky to get him.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua M.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/11/dombrowski-a-tiger-through-2011/#comment-24690</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love DD and am thrilled to have him locked up for years to come.  On the Weaver vs. Bonderman thing I have a really hard time with that.  At the time I was heart broken with the trade because I loved Weaver and his competative fire for the game.  And at the time of the trade the only &quot;sure&quot; thing we were getting was Pena.  In the present time though I would have to say Bonderman is a far better fit for us.  Plus can any one picture Weaver going through a 119 loss season???  I have to say Congrats to Weaver, but I would still take Bondo.  I just hope he finds consistency soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love DD and am thrilled to have him locked up for years to come.  On the Weaver vs. Bonderman thing I have a really hard time with that.  At the time I was heart broken with the trade because I loved Weaver and his competative fire for the game.  And at the time of the trade the only &#8220;sure&#8221; thing we were getting was Pena.  In the present time though I would have to say Bonderman is a far better fit for us.  Plus can any one picture Weaver going through a 119 loss season???  I have to say Congrats to Weaver, but I would still take Bondo.  I just hope he finds consistency soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Around the Bases 11.4.06: The Offseason Begins &#171; Detroit Sports Unleashed</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/11/dombrowski-a-tiger-through-2011/#comment-24600</link>
		<dc:creator>Around the Bases 11.4.06: The Offseason Begins &#171; Detroit Sports Unleashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski has signed a four-year contract extension that keeps him in Detroit through 2011. [Detroit Tigers Weblog] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski has signed a four-year contract extension that keeps him in Detroit through 2011. [Detroit Tigers Weblog] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle J</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/11/dombrowski-a-tiger-through-2011/#comment-24466</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, I’ll take a 24 year old Bonderman coming off the best year of his career vs. a 30 year old Weaver coming off one of his worst years, and it isn’t very close.&quot;

Bingo.  Anybody talking about trading Weaver for Teixera?  (Weaver&#039;s a free agent--but you get my point.)

I don&#039;t think beat writers are as valuable as they once were.  Most days, the stuff they put in the newspapers is practically a rote recitation of the notes you can find on the Tigers website.  To me, Lynn Henning is the only Detroit sportswriter who provides any unique analysis/insight about the Tigers.

As for Knobler&#039;s loyalty to Leyland, it pales in comparison to Steve Grinzel&#039;s apparent loyalty to John L. Smith:

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/weblog/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_grinzongreen/archives/2006_11.html#200533</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, I’ll take a 24 year old Bonderman coming off the best year of his career vs. a 30 year old Weaver coming off one of his worst years, and it isn’t very close.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo.  Anybody talking about trading Weaver for Teixera?  (Weaver&#8217;s a free agent&#8211;but you get my point.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think beat writers are as valuable as they once were.  Most days, the stuff they put in the newspapers is practically a rote recitation of the notes you can find on the Tigers website.  To me, Lynn Henning is the only Detroit sportswriter who provides any unique analysis/insight about the Tigers.</p>
<p>As for Knobler&#8217;s loyalty to Leyland, it pales in comparison to Steve Grinzel&#8217;s apparent loyalty to John L. Smith:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mlive.com/spartans/weblog/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_grinzongreen/archives/2006_11.html#200533" rel="nofollow">http://www.mlive.com/spartans/.....tml#200533</a></p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the local writers, Guidi retired last year.  That&#039;s why he&#039;s not around.  I too really like Morosi, both his beat writing and his analysis.  I liked Knobler pre-Leyland but he doesn&#039;t seem to do any analysis any more.  He just automatically agrees with Leyland.

I also agree with Kurt, without the beat writers we wouldn&#039;t have any information.  They&#039;re also in a tough spot in that they can&#039;t really be too critical or they run the risk of having access which is key for their job.

As for some of the other columnists, Parker is a joke.  He has no redeeming qualities as a writer or analyst.  I became much more of a fan of Sharp during the Tigers run in that he was often the voice of reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the local writers, Guidi retired last year.  That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s not around.  I too really like Morosi, both his beat writing and his analysis.  I liked Knobler pre-Leyland but he doesn&#8217;t seem to do any analysis any more.  He just automatically agrees with Leyland.</p>
<p>I also agree with Kurt, without the beat writers we wouldn&#8217;t have any information.  They&#8217;re also in a tough spot in that they can&#8217;t really be too critical or they run the risk of having access which is key for their job.</p>
<p>As for some of the other columnists, Parker is a joke.  He has no redeeming qualities as a writer or analyst.  I became much more of a fan of Sharp during the Tigers run in that he was often the voice of reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weaver has alot more IP over the last three years than Bonderman, and the last two have both been right around league average.

Most of Bonderman&#039;s improvement from 03-04 was due to a decrease in league wide scoring.  His ERA+ went from 92-93, so he only really improved by 1% compared to league average.

However, I&#039;ll take a 24 year old Bonderman coming off the best year of his career vs. a 30 year old Weaver coming off one of his worst years, and it isn&#039;t very close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weaver has alot more IP over the last three years than Bonderman, and the last two have both been right around league average.</p>
<p>Most of Bonderman&#8217;s improvement from 03-04 was due to a decrease in league wide scoring.  His ERA+ went from 92-93, so he only really improved by 1% compared to league average.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ll take a 24 year old Bonderman coming off the best year of his career vs. a 30 year old Weaver coming off one of his worst years, and it isn&#8217;t very close.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the papers pretty irregularly anymore-most of my Detroit sports news comes from listening to the radio while I&#039;m driving.I look forward to Tom Gage&#039;s appearances with Mike Valenti and Terry &quot;Giggles&quot; Foster,in the 15 minutes out of an hour when those two discuss sports instead of doing Oprah for Guys.I also like Pat Caputo(I know he writes for the Oakland Press,although I can&#039;t ever remember reading him).While I don&#039;t always agree with him,he seems to have a serious affection for baseball and has a respectful give and take with his callers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the papers pretty irregularly anymore-most of my Detroit sports news comes from listening to the radio while I&#8217;m driving.I look forward to Tom Gage&#8217;s appearances with Mike Valenti and Terry &#8220;Giggles&#8221; Foster,in the 15 minutes out of an hour when those two discuss sports instead of doing Oprah for Guys.I also like Pat Caputo(I know he writes for the Oakland Press,although I can&#8217;t ever remember reading him).While I don&#8217;t always agree with him,he seems to have a serious affection for baseball and has a respectful give and take with his callers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Y.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, 
I am sure you agree on Bonderman v. Weaver issue, just wanted to make my case a bit more for why Parker&#039;s article was off-base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,<br />
I am sure you agree on Bonderman v. Weaver issue, just wanted to make my case a bit more for why Parker&#8217;s article was off-base.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Y.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nick, I must have wrote his ERA down wrong (4.58 not 5.58).  Doesn&#039;t change the other numbers though.

Still, I would not say this is the first year Bonderman has been better than Weaver.  I would argue that Bonderman has been more valuable since he came into the league.  They both had high ERA&#039;s in 2003.  But Jeremy has more CG, more shutouts, 100 more Ks (623 vs. 510), given up less HRs (86 vs. 104).  Plus, he&#039;s managed to increase his winning pct. each year despite playing on fairly inept teams over that span (expect 2006, of course), while Weaver is basically .500 over that span with some pretty good NYY, LAA, and STL teams.

I don&#039;t think there is much debate over which of these two has better &quot;stuff&quot;, but Bonderman was young and learning, while Weaver had already shown what he had.

Parker can argue a wash, but its still a poor position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nick, I must have wrote his ERA down wrong (4.58 not 5.58).  Doesn&#8217;t change the other numbers though.</p>
<p>Still, I would not say this is the first year Bonderman has been better than Weaver.  I would argue that Bonderman has been more valuable since he came into the league.  They both had high ERA&#8217;s in 2003.  But Jeremy has more CG, more shutouts, 100 more Ks (623 vs. 510), given up less HRs (86 vs. 104).  Plus, he&#8217;s managed to increase his winning pct. each year despite playing on fairly inept teams over that span (expect 2006, of course), while Weaver is basically .500 over that span with some pretty good NYY, LAA, and STL teams.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there is much debate over which of these two has better &#8220;stuff&#8221;, but Bonderman was young and learning, while Weaver had already shown what he had.</p>
<p>Parker can argue a wash, but its still a poor position.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 13:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Y, Weaver&#039;s career ERA is 4.58, not 5.58.  This is the first year Bonderman has been better than Weaver.  I&#039;m not saying the trade was bad (we got more value from Pena than Weaver prior to this year, plsu we still have Bonderman who looks like he&#039;s pretty clearly better than Weaver going forward.) but I thought the correction was worth making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Y, Weaver&#8217;s career ERA is 4.58, not 5.58.  This is the first year Bonderman has been better than Weaver.  I&#8217;m not saying the trade was bad (we got more value from Pena than Weaver prior to this year, plsu we still have Bonderman who looks like he&#8217;s pretty clearly better than Weaver going forward.) but I thought the correction was worth making.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Dukeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Dukeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Ilicth wouldn&#039;t let him get away. I read the Rob Parker article earlier this year too.  Hey Rob, guess what, Mike Ilitch calls &quot;the best GM in baseball.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Ilicth wouldn&#8217;t let him get away. I read the Rob Parker article earlier this year too.  Hey Rob, guess what, Mike Ilitch calls &#8220;the best GM in baseball.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 06:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guidi must have been rotated out with the change of ownership at the Freep. He did fine. I can&#039;t even find where he is now on google. I like Lowe. But Jon Paul Morosi is a real treat. The Freep&#039;s  got a great one in him. I agree, we do have to make the distinction between beat writers, who are there every day and who report, and many columnists, who, well, suck. But when Morosi wrote a column, I read it. It&#039;s really unfair to sell short what he brought to Tigers coverage with his writing and insight.

I&#039;m sure Bilfer agrees, blogging is a lot easier with beat writers doing their jobs.

I thought pairing Tom Gage and Parker was genius. On one hand, we have the beat writer, who knew the team inside and out and whose predictions turned out to be pretty good week to week. On the other hand, we have this columnist who saw the team play, like, once and who doubted all along. I wondered what the point was, unless the point was to show how out-of-touch Parker&#039;s opinions were. In any case, I didn&#039;t even bother reading him by the time he started &quot;following&quot; the team in October.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guidi must have been rotated out with the change of ownership at the Freep. He did fine. I can&#8217;t even find where he is now on google. I like Lowe. But Jon Paul Morosi is a real treat. The Freep&#8217;s  got a great one in him. I agree, we do have to make the distinction between beat writers, who are there every day and who report, and many columnists, who, well, suck. But when Morosi wrote a column, I read it. It&#8217;s really unfair to sell short what he brought to Tigers coverage with his writing and insight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Bilfer agrees, blogging is a lot easier with beat writers doing their jobs.</p>
<p>I thought pairing Tom Gage and Parker was genius. On one hand, we have the beat writer, who knew the team inside and out and whose predictions turned out to be pretty good week to week. On the other hand, we have this columnist who saw the team play, like, once and who doubted all along. I wondered what the point was, unless the point was to show how out-of-touch Parker&#8217;s opinions were. In any case, I didn&#8217;t even bother reading him by the time he started &#8220;following&#8221; the team in October.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 06:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowe and Guidi are pretty good I think.  I think calling columnists morons is totally fair (certainly when the columnist is Rob Parker), but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to say most sports journalists are.

Half the time I think they&#039;re the only journalists who know how to do their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowe and Guidi are pretty good I think.  I think calling columnists morons is totally fair (certainly when the columnist is Rob Parker), but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to say most sports journalists are.</p>
<p>Half the time I think they&#8217;re the only journalists who know how to do their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Lenrose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Lenrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 04:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this article from Rob Parker. It is a typical example why it is a waste of time to read most mainstream sports journalists.  Compared to the analysis offered by this website, Rob Parker is a hapless dope who is only read because he was proclaimed a meaningful voice by the Detroit News. Any examination into the validity of his opinions exposes him for the moron that he is. This blog is by far the best place to go for Tiger opinion, and easily outdistances the Detroit sports pages in Tiger coverage (without daily access to the players by the way).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this article from Rob Parker. It is a typical example why it is a waste of time to read most mainstream sports journalists.  Compared to the analysis offered by this website, Rob Parker is a hapless dope who is only read because he was proclaimed a meaningful voice by the Detroit News. Any examination into the validity of his opinions exposes him for the moron that he is. This blog is by far the best place to go for Tiger opinion, and easily outdistances the Detroit sports pages in Tiger coverage (without daily access to the players by the way).</p>
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