Comments on: World Series Rotation http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Chris http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21169 Chris Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:11:37 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21169 I meant Gomez at DH against the A's in the comment above. I meant Gomez at DH against the A’s in the comment above.

]]> By: Chris http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21168 Chris Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:10:46 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21168 Starting Verlander in game 1 is a typical Leland move. He does this to give guys a charge. Robertson struggled against the Yankees, and then Leland started him in game 1 against the As. I think he's doing the same thing with Verlander. Justin hasn't had a great performance in the playoffs yet, and with this move Leland says "I believe in you." It may work, it may not - but Leland doesn't ever seem to let his guys think they might fail. He's not afraid to bat Inge 3rd early in the season, play Gomez at 3rd, or let Andrew Miller think he's considering putting him on the roster (I haven't seen the roster yet, is he on it?). Or letting Ledezma pitch in the 8th inning of a tight playoff game. I think treating everybody like a professional that he expects to produce has been no small part of the turnaround this year. The moves don't always make sense in a traditional sense, but maybe that's why the Tigers have succeeded this year. Instead of managing like he's afraid to lose, Leland manages like he expects to win. Starting Verlander in game 1 is a typical Leland move. He does this to give guys a charge. Robertson struggled against the Yankees, and then Leland started him in game 1 against the As. I think he’s doing the same thing with Verlander. Justin hasn’t had a great performance in the playoffs yet, and with this move Leland says “I believe in you.”

It may work, it may not – but Leland doesn’t ever seem to let his guys think they might fail. He’s not afraid to bat Inge 3rd early in the season, play Gomez at 3rd, or let Andrew Miller think he’s considering putting him on the roster (I haven’t seen the roster yet, is he on it?). Or letting Ledezma pitch in the 8th inning of a tight playoff game. I think treating everybody like a professional that he expects to produce has been no small part of the turnaround this year.

The moves don’t always make sense in a traditional sense, but maybe that’s why the Tigers have succeeded this year. Instead of managing like he’s afraid to lose, Leland manages like he expects to win.

]]> By: Bob S. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21151 Bob S. Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:54:12 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21151 Most pitcher's performance suffers with short rest.Which is why Mickey Lolich in 1968 is quite possibly the most exceptional pitching performance in World Series history. Most pitcher’s performance suffers with short rest.Which is why Mickey Lolich in 1968 is quite possibly the most exceptional pitching performance in World Series history.

]]> By: PHT in HK http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21102 PHT in HK Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:30:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21102 Good analysis by Sean to think through 7 games up front. I am have a hard time thinking past game 1. Good analysis by Sean to think through 7 games up front. I am have a hard time thinking past game 1.

]]> By: Mark http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21101 Mark Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:09:43 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21101 Vote now: Does Yadier Molina wax his eyebrows?? http://www.greatsportsnews.com/mlb/yadier_molina_eyebrows Vote now: Does Yadier Molina wax his eyebrows??

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]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21084 Kyle J Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:07:01 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21084 Interesting that LaRussa is waiting until games 3 and 4 to pitch Carpenter and Suppan. That means they'd both have to pitch on short rest to start them both twice (games 6 and 7). He probably figures it's better to give them their normal rest now and pitch them on short rest later, rather than vice versa. Either way, it's to our advantage. Isn't there pretty good evidence that pitchers' performance suffers when going on short rest in the postseason? On the other hand, it puts a bit of pressure on the Tigers to get those first two. Not a ton of pressure, but I'm sure the Cards will be happy with a split. Interesting that LaRussa is waiting until games 3 and 4 to pitch Carpenter and Suppan. That means they’d both have to pitch on short rest to start them both twice (games 6 and 7). He probably figures it’s better to give them their normal rest now and pitch them on short rest later, rather than vice versa.

Either way, it’s to our advantage. Isn’t there pretty good evidence that pitchers’ performance suffers when going on short rest in the postseason?

On the other hand, it puts a bit of pressure on the Tigers to get those first two. Not a ton of pressure, but I’m sure the Cards will be happy with a split.

]]> By: Cameron in Singapore http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21081 Cameron in Singapore Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:27:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21081 Very suprising. I certainly didn't expect Bonderman to wait until Game 4 to pitch. Very suprising. I certainly didn’t expect Bonderman to wait until Game 4 to pitch.

]]> By: Sean http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21068 Sean Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:29:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21068 I would think the decision to go with Verlander game one is to strike a powerful cord with the Cardinals, and make sure his bullpen is at is most ready if he needs help. Plus, if there is a game seven, doesn't Bonderman become the long relief guy if the starter gets hit? I would rather have him coming out of the bullpen than Verlander. I would think the decision to go with Verlander game one is to strike a powerful cord with the Cardinals, and make sure his bullpen is at is most ready if he needs help. Plus, if there is a game seven, doesn’t Bonderman become the long relief guy if the starter gets hit? I would rather have him coming out of the bullpen than Verlander.

]]> By: Greg http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21053 Greg Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:20:51 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21053 Shouldn't Lou Whitaker be included with anything involving Alan Trammell during the Series? Shouldn’t Lou Whitaker be included with anything involving Alan Trammell during the Series?

]]> By: Bob S. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21049 Bob S. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:12:48 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21049 I think it might have something to do with 1)matchups,and 2)pitching in the friendly confines of Comerica. I think it might have something to do with 1)matchups,and 2)pitching in the friendly confines of Comerica.

]]> By: Bobber http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21048 Bobber Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:41:40 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21048 With 4 ER in 6 IP, 5 K and 3 BB, Verlander didn't exactly smoke the Cards in June, but he won. The Tigers' scoring of 10 runs probably helped. I think Leyland manages his staff in a more big-picture way. No matter what happens, there will be a game 4 and the chances of the Tigers getting there 0-3 are nearly zero, however no matter if they're 3-0, 0-3 or anything in between, having Bonderman at that pass is a good move to me. In any case, it's a problem I'm sure LaRussa wouldn't mind having. With 4 ER in 6 IP, 5 K and 3 BB, Verlander didn’t exactly smoke the Cards in June, but he won. The Tigers’ scoring of 10 runs probably helped.

I think Leyland manages his staff in a more big-picture way. No matter what happens, there will be a game 4 and the chances of the Tigers getting there 0-3 are nearly zero, however no matter if they’re 3-0, 0-3 or anything in between, having Bonderman at that pass is a good move to me.

In any case, it’s a problem I’m sure LaRussa wouldn’t mind having.

]]> By: David V http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21043 David V Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:44:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21043 I'm sticking with my Verlander- Rogers-Bonderman-Robertson rotation from yesterday. I also think that Robertson should be the guy with one start not Bonderman. That said, I really, in my heart believe it doesn't matter who pitches when, or which one bats where, I love my Tigers and believe they are on the verge of bringing us a World Series Championship.....A PERFECT END TO AN UNBELIEVABLE STORY!!!! Go get em' , bless you boys , My Tiger is everyone of em' including Leyland, and of course the coaches (who's contribution is enormously overlooked )!!!!! I’m sticking with my Verlander- Rogers-Bonderman-Robertson rotation from yesterday. I also think that Robertson should be the guy with one start not Bonderman. That said, I really, in my heart believe it doesn’t matter who pitches when, or which one bats where, I love my Tigers and believe they are on the verge of bringing us a World Series Championship…..A PERFECT END TO AN UNBELIEVABLE STORY!!!! Go get em’ , bless you boys , My Tiger is everyone of em’ including Leyland, and of course the coaches (who’s contribution is enormously overlooked )!!!!!

]]> By: JL in NYC http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21035 JL in NYC Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:37:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21035 Man, am I the only one prematurely burned out on all the talk about the ratings for this series? What does this accomplish accept bum everyone out? Who cares about the ratings anyway? Man, am I the only one prematurely burned out on all the talk about the ratings for this series? What does this accomplish accept bum everyone out? Who cares about the ratings anyway?

]]> By: Kurt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21033 Kurt Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:05:35 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21033 Agree Bilfer, I believe my ideal rotation, like the one you posted a few days back, was Rogers-Bonderman-Robertson-Verlander. Half of that is that I'd rather Verlander only have one last start for the year due to his innings, and the other half is he's pitched well but not phenomenal in the playoffs. The order of the other three didn't seem like a real big deal. It's not like the Tigers have *an* ace, they have about four to choose from. Agree Bilfer, I believe my ideal rotation, like the one you posted a few days back, was Rogers-Bonderman-Robertson-Verlander. Half of that is that I’d rather Verlander only have one last start for the year due to his innings, and the other half is he’s pitched well but not phenomenal in the playoffs. The order of the other three didn’t seem like a real big deal. It’s not like the Tigers have *an* ace, they have about four to choose from.

]]> By: matt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21032 matt Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:02:20 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/10/world-series-rotation/#comment-21032 Well, here is a tired old cliche, but I think Verlander is due for a power performance. Didn't he smoke the cards earlier this year? Well, here is a tired old cliche, but I think Verlander is due for a power performance. Didn’t he smoke the cards earlier this year?

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