Comments on: Game 150: Tigers at White Sox http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: T Smith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14809 T Smith Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:54:51 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14809 Does anyone know how many hits we had/how long Garcia lasted in that 7-3 game we lost to Chicago the last time we faced Garcia? How well did we hit him? Does anyone know how many hits we had/how long Garcia lasted in that 7-3 game we lost to Chicago the last time we faced Garcia? How well did we hit him?

]]> By: Marshall in DC http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14801 Marshall in DC Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:22:01 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14801 FYI: Leyland has been quoted as saying they WILL celebrate when they clinch the wild card. What does this mean? Everyone gets two packs of Mobo Reds instead of one! Great game! The last 4 games have been good for the tigers. Nothing like a 17-run thumping to put some fun back into your at-bat. I still say we will look back to that game and say that is where the tigers turned it back-around. Definately won't go for a 4 man rotation untill the playoffs. I'm feeling much better this morning than I did one week ago!! Whoo Hoo! FYI: Leyland has been quoted as saying they WILL celebrate when they clinch the wild card.

What does this mean? Everyone gets two packs of Mobo Reds instead of one!

Great game! The last 4 games have been good for the tigers. Nothing like a 17-run thumping to put some fun back into your at-bat. I still say we will look back to that game and say that is where the tigers turned it back-around.

Definately won’t go for a 4 man rotation untill the playoffs.

I’m feeling much better this morning than I did one week ago!! Whoo Hoo!

]]> By: Kurt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14796 Kurt Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:27:37 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14796 I think once the playoffs are clinched, we might see a spot start from a guy like Chad Durbin and we'll probably see Ledezma go out for another start despite his lack of success the past 2 (3?). That's really a small sample. There's no way Leyland would do 4-man rotation until the playoffs. There's no need. And even if we'd like to win the Central, once you clinch the playoffs, you don't cost your guys rest trying to win the division. I think once the playoffs are clinched, we might see a spot start from a guy like Chad Durbin and we’ll probably see Ledezma go out for another start despite his lack of success the past 2 (3?). That’s really a small sample. There’s no way Leyland would do 4-man rotation until the playoffs. There’s no need. And even if we’d like to win the Central, once you clinch the playoffs, you don’t cost your guys rest trying to win the division.

]]> By: Tim Mc. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14782 Tim Mc. Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:28:07 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14782 Better yet, I think Leyland is already thinking on how to set-up his rotation for the playoffs. How can you not start off with ROGERS FIRST? I think that's a given. And Nate has been Great, 2ND FOR SURE! IT'S GONNA BE FUN ISN'T IT!! Better yet, I think Leyland is already thinking on how to set-up his rotation for the playoffs. How can you not start off with ROGERS FIRST? I think that’s a given. And Nate has been Great, 2ND FOR SURE!
IT’S GONNA BE FUN ISN’T IT!!

]]> By: Steve http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14781 Steve Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:24:36 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14781 And another thing, T Smiths link to the Sox anouncing crew is great. I have MLB extra innings and get these ding dongs alot and once you listen to them, you really appreciate how good our guys are. Read the link its all tru Rod Allen do you read on this blog? Mario? >>>Keep up the good work and spare me the line of "hegone" after a wiff. If I heard that from my own guys I think I would puke. Ok I better now. Steve And another thing, T Smiths link to the Sox anouncing crew is great. I have MLB extra innings and get these ding dongs alot and once you listen to them, you really appreciate how good our guys are. Read the link its all tru

Rod Allen do you read on this blog? Mario? >>>Keep up the good work and spare me the line of “hegone” after a wiff. If I heard that from my own guys I think I would puke. Ok I better now.

Steve

]]> By: Steve http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14780 Steve Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:16:05 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14780 Something to think about is its not whether you win the Division (that would be nice however) its about winning the series and it looks like the Yankees are tough right now, so from my stand point what ever AL Central "thing" we win is fine, its how long and who we play. Its eaither the Yankees aor the A's If we win the Division it looks like the A's if we wild card its the Yankee, so either way it goes through New York. >> Does anyone have two tickets to a play off game that they want to unload. Any game is fine with me. Steve Something to think about is its not whether you win the Division (that would be nice however) its about winning the series and it looks like the Yankees are tough right now, so from my stand point what ever AL Central “thing” we win is fine, its how long and who we play. Its eaither the Yankees aor the A’s If we win the Division it looks like the A’s if we wild card its the Yankee, so either way it goes through New York.

>> Does anyone have two tickets to a play off game that they want to unload. Any game is fine with me.

Steve

]]> By: Coach Jim http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14772 Coach Jim Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:03:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14772 Egad, not a 4-man rotation. You don't want these guys fatigued heading into the playoffs. If anything I would suggest an EXTRA starter. There are plenty of candidates: Maroth, Miner, Tata. I wouldn't do it vs. Chicago, but it's relatively weak teams the rest of the season after that. Personally I would drop Ledezma back to the bullpen and let Miner start again. If he gets hit in that start, I would try Maroth next. Remember, about 10 days ago I said the Tiger bats would get well against the lower-quality pitching we will mostly face in the last 3 weeks of the season. They will take the division and go into the playoff with confidence high. I stand by that prediction. So what will the 25-man roster look like for the playoffs? With Colon and Girattano on the disabled list we can use anyone on the 40-man roster to replace them. My roster would look like this: 1. Ivan Rodriguez 2. Vance Wilson 3. Sean Casey 4. Chris Shelton 5. Placido Polanco 6. Omar Infante 7. Carlos Guillen 8. Brandon Inge 9. Craig Monroe 10. Curtis Granderson 11. Magglio Ordonez 12. Marcus Thames 13. Alexis Gomez 14. Ramon Santiago (I just can't include Perez) 15. Kenny Rogers 16. Nate Robertson 17. Jeremy Bonderman 18. Justin Verlander 19. Zach Miner 20. Wil Ledezma 21. Todd Jones 22. Fernando Rodney 23. Joel Zumaya 24. Jamie Walker 25. Jason Grilli I expect a 4-man rotation through the playoffs because of the days off between rounds. If Polanco doesn't come back, expect him to be replaced on the roster by Clevlen. Egad, not a 4-man rotation. You don’t want these guys fatigued heading into the playoffs. If anything I would suggest an EXTRA starter. There are plenty of candidates: Maroth, Miner, Tata. I wouldn’t do it vs. Chicago, but it’s relatively weak teams the rest of the season after that. Personally I would drop Ledezma back to the bullpen and let Miner start again. If he gets hit in that start, I would try Maroth next.

Remember, about 10 days ago I said the Tiger bats would get well against the lower-quality pitching we will mostly face in the last 3 weeks of the season. They will take the division and go into the playoff with confidence high. I stand by that prediction.

So what will the 25-man roster look like for the playoffs? With Colon and Girattano on the disabled list we can use anyone on the 40-man roster to replace them.

My roster would look like this:
1. Ivan Rodriguez
2. Vance Wilson
3. Sean Casey
4. Chris Shelton
5. Placido Polanco
6. Omar Infante
7. Carlos Guillen
8. Brandon Inge
9. Craig Monroe
10. Curtis Granderson
11. Magglio Ordonez
12. Marcus Thames
13. Alexis Gomez
14. Ramon Santiago (I just can’t include Perez)

15. Kenny Rogers
16. Nate Robertson
17. Jeremy Bonderman
18. Justin Verlander
19. Zach Miner
20. Wil Ledezma
21. Todd Jones
22. Fernando Rodney
23. Joel Zumaya
24. Jamie Walker
25. Jason Grilli

I expect a 4-man rotation through the playoffs because of the days off between rounds.

If Polanco doesn’t come back, expect him to be replaced on the roster by Clevlen.

]]> By: T Smith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14771 T Smith Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:50:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14771 "...Tigers magic number to clinch Wild Card playoff spot is now at 7. Of course they won’t be celebrating the Wild Card..." By the way, Alan, FYI: Leyland has been quoted as saying they WILL celebrate when they clinch the wild card. Not that I don't agree with you...they shouldn't celebrate until we clinch the division. I really don't relish the idea of playing our first two playoff games at Yankee Stadium “…Tigers magic number to clinch Wild Card playoff spot is now at 7. Of course they won’t be celebrating the Wild Card…”

By the way, Alan, FYI: Leyland has been quoted as saying they WILL celebrate when they clinch the wild card. Not that I don’t agree with you…they shouldn’t celebrate until we clinch the division. I really don’t relish the idea of playing our first two playoff games at Yankee Stadium

]]> By: T Smith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14742 T Smith Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:21:19 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14742 After the last few games leading into the O's series and this last game, I've noticed a few positive trends developing, highlighted by the following: 1. Sean Casey is beginning to look like a .300 hitter instead of a .100 hitter (key word, is "beginning" to look like one...we still need him to continue trending the way he has. 2. Kenny Rogers is still solid, apparently the second-half fade theory has proved incorrect this year/Nate Roberston has weathered through the lull virtually unscathed. Right now I see these two as our two best/most consistant pitchers. 3. Neifi Perez at least looks like a baseball player, instead of somebody bribing either Mike Ilitch, Jim Leyland, or DD to play. (I would still pinch hit for him in a clutch spot, and I would still play Infante first--hopefully Polly will be back soon and this will be a mute consideration). 4. Opposing pitchers are beginning to look human to Tiger bats, like pitchers that accurately reflect their W/L record, instead of the string of "apparent CY-Young candidates" the Tigers have faced over the past 6 weeks. 5. Tigers have begun to hit with 2 outs and/or with RISP. That said, I have also noticed a few disturbing trends I hope are rather blips, and not trends: 1. The bullpen, touted as "one of the best in AL" isn't looking as sharp as its ERA would suggest. 2. Ledezma (while sharp the first couple outings) appears spent at the starter roll. We have no apparent 5th man in the rotation who can get the job done -- which raises a question, would it tax the others too much through the stretch/playoffs to settle into a four-man rotation? 3. Bondo and Verlander have given sporatic performances--they appear either "on" or "not on"... It's not a safe bet to call which pitcher will show up on any given night Let's hope Verlander is "on" tonight. A win virtually guarantees us the wild card; moreover, it allieviates the pressure. As much as it's not necessarily a good thing, I think the Tigers preform much better when they aren't squeezed... In fact, if they win tonight (and with the wild card viturally a given), I perdict they'll go 8-3 during the remaining the stretch and actually take the division... After the last few games leading into the O’s series and this last game, I’ve noticed a few positive trends developing, highlighted by the following:

1. Sean Casey is beginning to look like a .300 hitter instead of a .100 hitter (key word, is “beginning” to look like one…we still need him to continue trending the way he has.

2. Kenny Rogers is still solid, apparently the second-half fade theory has proved incorrect this year/Nate Roberston has weathered through the lull virtually unscathed. Right now I see these two as our two best/most consistant pitchers.

3. Neifi Perez at least looks like a baseball player, instead of somebody bribing either Mike Ilitch, Jim Leyland, or DD to play. (I would still pinch hit for him in a clutch spot, and I would still play Infante first–hopefully Polly will be back soon and this will be a mute consideration).

4. Opposing pitchers are beginning to look human to Tiger bats, like pitchers that accurately reflect their W/L record, instead of the string of “apparent CY-Young candidates” the Tigers have faced over the past 6 weeks.

5. Tigers have begun to hit with 2 outs and/or with RISP.

That said, I have also noticed a few disturbing trends I hope are rather blips, and not trends:

1. The bullpen, touted as “one of the best in AL” isn’t looking as sharp as its ERA would suggest.

2. Ledezma (while sharp the first couple outings) appears spent at the starter roll. We have no apparent 5th man in the rotation who can get the job done — which raises a question, would it tax the others too much through the stretch/playoffs to settle into a four-man rotation?

3. Bondo and Verlander have given sporatic performances–they appear either “on” or “not on”… It’s not a safe bet to call which pitcher will show up on any given night

Let’s hope Verlander is “on” tonight. A win virtually guarantees us the wild card; moreover, it allieviates the pressure. As much as it’s not necessarily a good thing, I think the Tigers preform much better when they aren’t squeezed… In fact, if they win tonight (and with the wild card viturally a given), I perdict they’ll go 8-3 during the remaining the stretch and actually take the division…

]]> By: T Smith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14737 T Smith Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:46:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14737 If anybody's interested, below is a writhing article about those ding bats who call games for Chicago...apparently, even the fans in Chicago are trashing their announcers. It's so painful listening to those guys http://www.pjstar.com/stories/091906/MIK_BB0JUDUQ.076.shtml If anybody’s interested, below is a writhing article about those ding bats who call games for Chicago…apparently, even the fans in Chicago are trashing their announcers. It’s so painful listening to those guys

http://www.pjstar.com/stories/......076.shtml

]]> By: Coach Jim http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14731 Coach Jim Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:48:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14731 Multi-hit game or not, Neifi is still the worst hitter I've ever seen. Don't hand me any garbage about the 2-run double he hit Sunday either. That was a ground ball the pitcher should have had. Multi-hit game or not, Neifi is still the worst hitter I’ve ever seen. Don’t hand me any garbage about the 2-run double he hit Sunday either. That was a ground ball the pitcher should have had.

]]> By: Jeff M http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14702 Jeff M Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:29:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14702 <blockquote>P.S. Anyone have any tips on how to beat the on-line random selection system?</blockquote> Yes, but I'm not tellin ya. Just kidding. :) Maybe. Pete, you're right that I'm nitpicking. It's not a big deal, but I would like to know what Leyland was thinking. Which takes me to my next question: Why do our reporters suck? - "What did you think of Rogers' performance?" Duh, it was a gutsy performance. We're gonna need more of them. - "What do you think of the offense putting up a bunch of runs?" Duh, it was good. We're gonna need the offense. - "What do you think of Magglio hitting two out?" Duh, he was good. We're gonna need him. Why not ask questions we don't already know the answer to?!?!?! I'm not trying to grill Leyland, I just want to understand his decision-making better.

P.S. Anyone have any tips on how to beat the on-line random selection system?

Yes, but I’m not tellin ya. Just kidding. :) Maybe.

Pete, you’re right that I’m nitpicking. It’s not a big deal, but I would like to know what Leyland was thinking. Which takes me to my next question:

Why do our reporters suck?
- “What did you think of Rogers’ performance?” Duh, it was a gutsy performance. We’re gonna need more of them.
- “What do you think of the offense putting up a bunch of runs?” Duh, it was good. We’re gonna need the offense.
- “What do you think of Magglio hitting two out?” Duh, he was good. We’re gonna need him.

Why not ask questions we don’t already know the answer to?!?!?!
I’m not trying to grill Leyland, I just want to understand his decision-making better.

]]> By: Alan http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14700 Alan Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:14:33 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14700 Tigers magic number to clinch Wild Card playoff spot is now at 7. Of course they won't be celebrating the Wild Card with the Division still a desire. Go Red Sox! Beat the Twins. Tigers magic number to clinch Wild Card playoff spot is now at 7. Of course they won’t be celebrating the Wild Card with the Division still a desire. Go Red Sox! Beat the Twins.

]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14698 Kyle J Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:11:52 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14698 Remember at the All-Star break when we were still pinching ourselves and thinking, "They're 59-29. If they can just go .500 from here on out they'll make the playoffs."? Well, they're 31-31 since then. Time to break open the piggy bank and buy some playoff tickets tomorrow. P.S. Anyone have any tips on how to beat the on-line random selection system? Remember at the All-Star break when we were still pinching ourselves and thinking, “They’re 59-29. If they can just go .500 from here on out they’ll make the playoffs.”? Well, they’re 31-31 since then.

Time to break open the piggy bank and buy some playoff tickets tomorrow.

P.S. Anyone have any tips on how to beat the on-line random selection system?

]]> By: Pete http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14697 Pete Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:09:52 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/09/game-150-tigers-at-white-sox/#comment-14697 Jeff, I agree that he could have let one of the young guys mop up tonight, but if Walker can't pitch tomorrow it's no great loss. He's not exactly Mariano Rivera, and he seems to be struggling a bit lately. I for one WOULD NOT want to see him pitch two innings tomorrow, unless we have a big lead (obviously moot b/c he ended up pitching tonight). Anyway, great win tonight. Best performance of the year by Rogers. That is not an easy lineup to shut down like that. The pitching matchups turn in their favor the rest of the series, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sox take the next two. But I'm with Billfer, all we really needed out of this series was one win and we are likely to make the playoffs. If we could just split the remaining two games here the Sox would be all but finished. 90 wins and counting... Jeff, I agree that he could have let one of the young guys mop up tonight, but if Walker can’t pitch tomorrow it’s no great loss. He’s not exactly Mariano Rivera, and he seems to be struggling a bit lately. I for one WOULD NOT want to see him pitch two innings tomorrow, unless we have a big lead (obviously moot b/c he ended up pitching tonight).

Anyway, great win tonight. Best performance of the year by Rogers. That is not an easy lineup to shut down like that. The pitching matchups turn in their favor the rest of the series, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Sox take the next two. But I’m with Billfer, all we really needed out of this series was one win and we are likely to make the playoffs. If we could just split the remaining two games here the Sox would be all but finished.

90 wins and counting…

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