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		<title>By: KS</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-126-white-sox-at-tigers/#comment-10848</link>
		<dc:creator>KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely concur with Prospectus sentiment. It&#039;s not exactly like Infante is Todd Walker out there at second base.</description>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from Baseball Prospectus on Nefi

Oh, the humanity, etc. There&#039;s something fundamentally ugly about letting Perez glom on to a good ballclub and get handed the ninth slot in the lineup with a post-it asking that he not be any worse than usual, but that&#039;s what happens when you&#039;re born under the right stars, I suppose. I can accept some sort of argument that there&#039;s virtue in leaving Omar Infante  in a utility role, and I think we can all accept that Santiago is one of the few utility infielders who might be worse than Perez. (We&#039;ll get to the return of Manny Alexander in the Pads section.) I just don&#039;t really buy into it all in concert: the Tigers would be best off with Infante in the lineup, and if you stick Perez in a reserve role as an infrequently-used reserve, that&#039;s not the end of the world. The decision to make Perez the team&#039;s everyday second baseman, however, might actually cost the team just enough runs and outs that a hot streak by the White Sox or Twins starts making things interesting. I know, it&#039;s a stretch, but Neifi&#039;s one of the game&#039;s all-time execrables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from Baseball Prospectus on Nefi</p>
<p>Oh, the humanity, etc. There&#8217;s something fundamentally ugly about letting Perez glom on to a good ballclub and get handed the ninth slot in the lineup with a post-it asking that he not be any worse than usual, but that&#8217;s what happens when you&#8217;re born under the right stars, I suppose. I can accept some sort of argument that there&#8217;s virtue in leaving Omar Infante  in a utility role, and I think we can all accept that Santiago is one of the few utility infielders who might be worse than Perez. (We&#8217;ll get to the return of Manny Alexander in the Pads section.) I just don&#8217;t really buy into it all in concert: the Tigers would be best off with Infante in the lineup, and if you stick Perez in a reserve role as an infrequently-used reserve, that&#8217;s not the end of the world. The decision to make Perez the team&#8217;s everyday second baseman, however, might actually cost the team just enough runs and outs that a hot streak by the White Sox or Twins starts making things interesting. I know, it&#8217;s a stretch, but Neifi&#8217;s one of the game&#8217;s all-time execrables.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from Baseball Prospectus on Nefi

Oh, the humanity, etc. There&#039;s something fundamentally ugly about letting Perez glom on to a good ballclub and get handed the ninth slot in the lineup with a post-it asking that he not be any worse than usual, but that&#039;s what happens when you&#039;re born under the right stars, I suppose. I can accept some sort of argument that there&#039;s virtue in leaving Omar Infante   in a utility role, and I think we can all accept that Santiago is one of the few utility infielders who might be worse than Perez. (We&#039;ll get to the return of Manny Alexander in the Pads section.) I just don&#039;t really buy into it all in concert: the Tigers would be best off with Infante in the lineup, and if you stick Perez in a reserve role as an infrequently-used reserve, that&#039;s not the end of the world. The decision to make Perez the team&#039;s everyday second baseman, however, might actually cost the team just enough runs and outs that a hot streak by the White Sox or Twins starts making things interesting. I know, it&#039;s a stretch, but Neifi&#039;s one of the game&#039;s all-time execrables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from Baseball Prospectus on Nefi</p>
<p>Oh, the humanity, etc. There&#8217;s something fundamentally ugly about letting Perez glom on to a good ballclub and get handed the ninth slot in the lineup with a post-it asking that he not be any worse than usual, but that&#8217;s what happens when you&#8217;re born under the right stars, I suppose. I can accept some sort of argument that there&#8217;s virtue in leaving Omar Infante   in a utility role, and I think we can all accept that Santiago is one of the few utility infielders who might be worse than Perez. (We&#8217;ll get to the return of Manny Alexander in the Pads section.) I just don&#8217;t really buy into it all in concert: the Tigers would be best off with Infante in the lineup, and if you stick Perez in a reserve role as an infrequently-used reserve, that&#8217;s not the end of the world. The decision to make Perez the team&#8217;s everyday second baseman, however, might actually cost the team just enough runs and outs that a hot streak by the White Sox or Twins starts making things interesting. I know, it&#8217;s a stretch, but Neifi&#8217;s one of the game&#8217;s all-time execrables.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guillen is the best choice to bat 1, 2 or 3 in the lineup.

Who was the last REAL leadoff hitter the Tigers had?  Logan started off hot a couple times, but couldn&#039;t sustain his &quot;luck&quot; for a whole year.  Alex Sanchez wouldn&#039;t take a walk...same goes for Roger Cedeno and Brian Hunter.  How about Luis Polonia or Chad Curtis?  I would say the last leadoff hitter we had that I LIKED was Tony Phillips.  Whitaker had some success there, but I don&#039;t count him as a leadoff hitter, he just batted first.  Jeeze, before him was Ron LeFlore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guillen is the best choice to bat 1, 2 or 3 in the lineup.</p>
<p>Who was the last REAL leadoff hitter the Tigers had?  Logan started off hot a couple times, but couldn&#8217;t sustain his &#8220;luck&#8221; for a whole year.  Alex Sanchez wouldn&#8217;t take a walk&#8230;same goes for Roger Cedeno and Brian Hunter.  How about Luis Polonia or Chad Curtis?  I would say the last leadoff hitter we had that I LIKED was Tony Phillips.  Whitaker had some success there, but I don&#8217;t count him as a leadoff hitter, he just batted first.  Jeeze, before him was Ron LeFlore.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Pudge showed more discipline batting lead-off,but I still think(and have thought for a couple years now) that Guillen is a natural born lead-off hitter.High OBP,good base runner,has some power,and a switch hitter to boot-yeah,why would you want him in a spot in the line up where he&#039;s getting more at-bats.(Of course,you could make a similar argument for Perez-he&#039;s a switch hitter.)With Ordonez,Rodriguez,Monroe,Young,and now Casey,the Tigers have the bats in the middle of the order,not to mention Thames and Inge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Pudge showed more discipline batting lead-off,but I still think(and have thought for a couple years now) that Guillen is a natural born lead-off hitter.High OBP,good base runner,has some power,and a switch hitter to boot-yeah,why would you want him in a spot in the line up where he&#8217;s getting more at-bats.(Of course,you could make a similar argument for Perez-he&#8217;s a switch hitter.)With Ordonez,Rodriguez,Monroe,Young,and now Casey,the Tigers have the bats in the middle of the order,not to mention Thames and Inge.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;how does one improve on a 4-0 win?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s hard, but a 95 pitch CG would have kept Rodney fresh for tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>how does one improve on a 4-0 win?</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s hard, but a 95 pitch CG would have kept Rodney fresh for tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is but one requirement for batting leadoff: ON BASE PERCENTAGE.  A strikeout is an out just like a long fly to the warning track, so who cares?  Actually, you would rather your leadoff man strikeout a lot rather than your #3 hitter.  You don&#039;t want strikeouts with men in scoring position.  I would vote for Guillen 1st, and Granderson as my 2nd choice to bat leadoff.

Caveat: When Pudge batted first he seemed to be a different hitter, much more selective at the plate.  Maybe if he stayed there he would draw tons of walks.  It would be fun to try, but not in a pennant race.

Somebody please teach Nook Logan how to hit line drives!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is but one requirement for batting leadoff: ON BASE PERCENTAGE.  A strikeout is an out just like a long fly to the warning track, so who cares?  Actually, you would rather your leadoff man strikeout a lot rather than your #3 hitter.  You don&#8217;t want strikeouts with men in scoring position.  I would vote for Guillen 1st, and Granderson as my 2nd choice to bat leadoff.</p>
<p>Caveat: When Pudge batted first he seemed to be a different hitter, much more selective at the plate.  Maybe if he stayed there he would draw tons of walks.  It would be fun to try, but not in a pennant race.</p>
<p>Somebody please teach Nook Logan how to hit line drives!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Perez problem is this: 

Neifi has the most Runs Created Below Average &lt;i&gt;ever.&lt;/i&gt; Sabermetric analysis has its limits, but it clearly shows that Infante (3 for 4 in his last start, BTW) creates more runs batting than Perez saves fielding.

When we acquired Perez, I thought Leyland would use him like Santiago - a late-inning DR and &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; occasional starter. Not only starting Neifi, but batting him leadoff, shows a troubling ignorance of how baseball games are won.

I agree that Granderson should be batting lower in the order with his prolonged slump. Who should bat leadoff? Pudge or Inge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Perez problem is this: </p>
<p>Neifi has the most Runs Created Below Average <i>ever.</i> Sabermetric analysis has its limits, but it clearly shows that Infante (3 for 4 in his last start, BTW) creates more runs batting than Perez saves fielding.</p>
<p>When we acquired Perez, I thought Leyland would use him like Santiago &#8211; a late-inning DR and <i>very</i> occasional starter. Not only starting Neifi, but batting him leadoff, shows a troubling ignorance of how baseball games are won.</p>
<p>I agree that Granderson should be batting lower in the order with his prolonged slump. Who should bat leadoff? Pudge or Inge.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides simply playing the L/R matchup, I think Leyland wanted to give DY a chance to warm-up for tonight&#039;s game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides simply playing the L/R matchup, I think Leyland wanted to give DY a chance to warm-up for tonight&#8217;s game.</p>
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		<title>By: BigMax</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigMax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange moves.  I would certainly be much happier with Omar playing.  

Still, you can&#039;t beat the results, and lineup really doesn&#039;t matter much in the grand scheme of things (although who plays does matter).

I agree most with the comments about DY hitting for Thames... Thames was crushing the ball (that homer by the flagpole was a real blast).  Free Marcus!

Still, after all my griping -- how does one improve on a 4-0 win?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange moves.  I would certainly be much happier with Omar playing.  </p>
<p>Still, you can&#8217;t beat the results, and lineup really doesn&#8217;t matter much in the grand scheme of things (although who plays does matter).</p>
<p>I agree most with the comments about DY hitting for Thames&#8230; Thames was crushing the ball (that homer by the flagpole was a real blast).  Free Marcus!</p>
<p>Still, after all my griping &#8212; how does one improve on a 4-0 win?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time the Tigers were in the playoffs I was too young and ignorant to realize that the Tigers are not in a pennant race every year or even into August once and a while.  These guys just play with grit and determination and are winning a ton of games without any one player bearing the offensive load.

I have no complaints about beating the White Sox 4-0.  Sure, I could find nitpick things here and there, but I share Ron&#039;s opinion above.

These Tigers just bring a smile to my face.  I am just enjoying this wonderful season.  Great win, Tigers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time the Tigers were in the playoffs I was too young and ignorant to realize that the Tigers are not in a pennant race every year or even into August once and a while.  These guys just play with grit and determination and are winning a ton of games without any one player bearing the offensive load.</p>
<p>I have no complaints about beating the White Sox 4-0.  Sure, I could find nitpick things here and there, but I share Ron&#8217;s opinion above.</p>
<p>These Tigers just bring a smile to my face.  I am just enjoying this wonderful season.  Great win, Tigers!</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall in DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall in DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me two mores win before I start saying the &quot;Sox monkey is off our back.&quot; One more win before I say they are  &quot;like the tigers from last spring&quot;

We were swept by these guys and then lost the series with the Rangers (at home)

Winning is nice but step back. This is when we have to put the Sox away. Bury&#039;em guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me two mores win before I start saying the &#8220;Sox monkey is off our back.&#8221; One more win before I say they are  &#8220;like the tigers from last spring&#8221;</p>
<p>We were swept by these guys and then lost the series with the Rangers (at home)</p>
<p>Winning is nice but step back. This is when we have to put the Sox away. Bury&#8217;em guys!</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never heard such trivial criticism of a team that is going to win at least 100 games this season.Tiger fans should enjoy the ride.Its been a loooong time.Playoff tickets are about to go on sale.Who woulda thunk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never heard such trivial criticism of a team that is going to win at least 100 games this season.Tiger fans should enjoy the ride.Its been a loooong time.Playoff tickets are about to go on sale.Who woulda thunk?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leyland&#039;s batting Perez lead-off has impressed the crew at Fire Joe Morgan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leyland&#8217;s batting Perez lead-off has impressed the crew at Fire Joe Morgan.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s 2-0 with Neifi in the lineup!  

One little thing about Neifi that no one has mentioned, and that any Cubs fan knows, is you can never underestimate the value of leaving the Chicago Cubs.  It is the best career move any player can make -- just look at Nomar, Maddux, Borowski, Matthers Jr., etc. this year.  I don&#039;t know if this theory applies to guys like Neifi who have stunk for like nine different teams, but I predict significant improvement in Neifi&#039;s numbers now that he&#039;s off the Scrubs.

Pete
(aka Perez-ident, Neifi Fan Club)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s 2-0 with Neifi in the lineup!  </p>
<p>One little thing about Neifi that no one has mentioned, and that any Cubs fan knows, is you can never underestimate the value of leaving the Chicago Cubs.  It is the best career move any player can make &#8212; just look at Nomar, Maddux, Borowski, Matthers Jr., etc. this year.  I don&#8217;t know if this theory applies to guys like Neifi who have stunk for like nine different teams, but I predict significant improvement in Neifi&#8217;s numbers now that he&#8217;s off the Scrubs.</p>
<p>Pete<br />
(aka Perez-ident, Neifi Fan Club)</p>
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