Comments on: Game 124: Rangers at Tigers http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Kurt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10623 Kurt Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:19:18 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10623 After all this losing, Baseball Prospectus ELO (momentum) adjusted projections still have Detroit 83% to win the division and 96% to make the playoffs, hardly a change since last week. We're just lucky no top team is really stepping forward at this point like Detroit did in July or it would be theirs to claim. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_oddselo.php After all this losing, Baseball Prospectus ELO (momentum) adjusted projections still have Detroit 83% to win the division and 96% to make the playoffs, hardly a change since last week. We’re just lucky no top team is really stepping forward at this point like Detroit did in July or it would be theirs to claim.

http://www.baseballprospectus......ddselo.php

]]> By: Ken http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10621 Ken Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:36:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10621 Does anybody have information on this supposed Mark Loretta trade that fell through during negotiations? There are some notes on Yahoo Fantasy about this. Does anybody have information on this supposed Mark Loretta trade that fell through during negotiations? There are some notes on Yahoo Fantasy about this.

]]> By: Josh B http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10616 Josh B Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:20:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10616 2 thoughts. Short term and long term. Short term: Yes, this is painful right now, but we're actually still in great shape. Even losing this series 3-1 would not be devastating. In order to make the playoffs, all the Tigers need to do is tread water until September 15th, after which the schedule gets ridiculously easy. It sucks to watch Bonderman blow a lead and the offense not produce and Granderson struggle, but it's a long season and unless we're talking about 1995 Angels territory, this is just a blip. Long term: I really don't like the way Leyland handles young players. His pitching philosophy has been noted in many places; he's not great for young arms. I'm more worried about young bats. The psychological damage he's done to Shelton and Granderson is appalling. To some degree, yes, I agree that you have to play the hot hand. But you also have to allow young players to struggle a little without jumping ship on them. Two months ago would anyone have really been considering so much as platooning Granderson? Let alone for a .224 minor league hitter? The point is that if the Tigers want to sustain the success they've had so far this year, they're going to need to rely on the Grandersons and Sheltons more than the Clevlens, Caseys, (and to some degree) Ordonezs of the world. 2 thoughts. Short term and long term.

Short term: Yes, this is painful right now, but we’re actually still in great shape. Even losing this series 3-1 would not be devastating. In order to make the playoffs, all the Tigers need to do is tread water until September 15th, after which the schedule gets ridiculously easy. It sucks to watch Bonderman blow a lead and the offense not produce and Granderson struggle, but it’s a long season and unless we’re talking about 1995 Angels territory, this is just a blip.

Long term: I really don’t like the way Leyland handles young players. His pitching philosophy has been noted in many places; he’s not great for young arms. I’m more worried about young bats. The psychological damage he’s done to Shelton and Granderson is appalling. To some degree, yes, I agree that you have to play the hot hand. But you also have to allow young players to struggle a little without jumping ship on them. Two months ago would anyone have really been considering so much as platooning Granderson? Let alone for a .224 minor league hitter? The point is that if the Tigers want to sustain the success they’ve had so far this year, they’re going to need to rely on the Grandersons and Sheltons more than the Clevlens, Caseys, (and to some degree) Ordonezs of the world.

]]> By: Cameron in Singapore http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10597 Cameron in Singapore Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:25:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10597 .500 baseball the rest of the way still has the Tigers with 98 wins. Gotta figure we'll be able to pull it together and at least finish there...don't yoU? .500 baseball the rest of the way still has the Tigers with 98 wins. Gotta figure we’ll be able to pull it together and at least finish there…don’t yoU?

]]> By: Chris http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10572 Chris Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:35:51 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10572 Andrew Miller pitched a perfect sixth and had two k's. Not a bad first impression. He could be an interesting situation come September. Andrew Miller pitched a perfect sixth and had two k’s. Not a bad first impression. He could be an interesting situation come September.

]]> By: Shawn in Tokyo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10565 Shawn in Tokyo Mon, 21 Aug 2006 00:22:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10565 Records of Tigs, Twins and Sox for August so far: Tigers 9-10 Sox 11-8 Twins 11-8 Being this is probably the toughest month for the Tigers, they really need to stay at .500 or higher for the month, especially with the Sox series coming up. The Sox and Twins both need to play better than .600 ball and they aren't doing it yet this month. So, Tigers really need to take this next series from the Sox in my opinion. Records of Tigs, Twins and Sox for August so far:

Tigers 9-10
Sox 11-8
Twins 11-8

Being this is probably the toughest month for the Tigers, they really need to stay at .500 or higher for the month, especially with the Sox series coming up. The Sox and Twins both need to play better than .600 ball and they aren’t doing it yet this month.

So, Tigers really need to take this next series from the Sox in my opinion.

]]> By: Chris Y. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10557 Chris Y. Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:38:44 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10557 We keep playing like this, we won't even be around for the wild card race. And we shouldn't be. This has all the looks of "the fade".... We keep playing like this, we won’t even be around for the wild card race. And we shouldn’t be.

This has all the looks of “the fade”….

]]> By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10551 Joey C. Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:19:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10551 This team is in trouble. This team is in trouble.

]]> By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10549 Joey C. Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:58:37 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10549 How slow is Maggs anyway? How slow is Maggs anyway?

]]> By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10548 Joey C. Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:52:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10548 Thames is an adventure in left. I don't understand why the only time he gets playing-time is when Monroe is DH. Why wouldn't you DH Thames? It's so freaking backwards. I know there's been some debate regarding the fielding upgrade that Monroe provides, but I don't think one can argue that Monroe isn't at least a little better--I'd say more than a little--and that being the case, I can't fathom why Leyland insists on this arrangement. Thames is an adventure in left. I don’t understand why the only time he gets playing-time is when Monroe is DH. Why wouldn’t you DH Thames? It’s so freaking backwards. I know there’s been some debate regarding the fielding upgrade that Monroe provides, but I don’t think one can argue that Monroe isn’t at least a little better–I’d say more than a little–and that being the case, I can’t fathom why Leyland insists on this arrangement.

]]> By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10547 Joey C. Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:47:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10547 Unbelievable! That was actually a pretty damn nice slide by Maggs too. Unbelievable!

That was actually a pretty damn nice slide by Maggs too.

]]> By: Anne http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10544 Anne Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:13:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10544 Boy, if the Tigs could ever get their pitching, hitting and defense working IN THE SAME GAME, they could really do something. Boy, if the Tigs could ever get their pitching, hitting and defense working IN THE SAME GAME, they could really do something.

]]> By: Chris Y. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10543 Chris Y. Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:53:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10543 I'm all for seeing someone in LF who can actually judge a fly ball. I’m all for seeing someone in LF who can actually judge a fly ball.

]]> By: Ken http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10539 Ken Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:30:35 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10539 I honestly believe Clevlen should be the everyday starter the way he's hitting. He's only a slight step back defensively (probably has the better arm) and Granderson is paralyzing our offense lately. You have to reward who's producing. Meanwhile I'm watching our lead slip away. Doh I honestly believe Clevlen should be the everyday starter the way he’s hitting. He’s only a slight step back defensively (probably has the better arm) and Granderson is paralyzing our offense lately. You have to reward who’s producing. Meanwhile I’m watching our lead slip away. Doh

]]> By: Anne http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10535 Anne Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:00:37 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-124-rangers-at-tigers/#comment-10535 Sheesh, it's about time! I was about to take out an ad in the Lost and Found, asking whomever has the Tigers' bats to please return them. Sheesh, it’s about time! I was about to take out an ad in the Lost and Found, asking whomever has the Tigers’ bats to please return them.

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