Comments on: Game 120: Tigers at Red Sox http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Miguelito http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10354 Miguelito Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:26:35 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10354 Verlader had nothing and his mechanics look really out of whack. No curve and no change-up and christ he even had trouble spotting his fastball. I mean he had nothing. But he got through on guts. I agree with an earlier post, how could he leave him in so long? I don't get it. Ordonez looked ridiculous on Ortizs homer should have been caught. Clevlans homer was gorgeous. I love Granderson but why pinch-hit for Clevlan in the 9th???? Grandersons mechanics are a mess right now and my God Clevlan has done everything right. Where is it written that he can't bat agaist right handers. I'm not saying hes ready for everyday but lets let him play till he shows us he can't. I was ready for 2 base runners and a Monroe rocket. Next time. 2 out of three in Boston, winning against Beckett and Schilling I'll take it every time. Verlader had nothing and his mechanics look really out of whack. No curve and no change-up and christ he even had trouble spotting his fastball. I mean he had nothing. But he got through on guts. I agree with an earlier post, how could he leave him in so long? I don’t get it. Ordonez looked ridiculous on Ortizs homer should have been caught.

Clevlans homer was gorgeous. I love Granderson but why pinch-hit for Clevlan in the 9th???? Grandersons mechanics are a mess right now and my God Clevlan has done everything right. Where is it written that he can’t bat agaist right handers. I’m not saying hes ready for everyday but lets let him play till he shows us he can’t.

I was ready for 2 base runners and a Monroe rocket. Next time. 2 out of three in Boston, winning against Beckett and Schilling I’ll take it every time.

]]> By: Craig in CA http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10305 Craig in CA Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:21:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10305 Win or lose I love the Tigers.... One obvious observation. For most of the season Leyland has been getting 7 innings from his starters. As the season drags on, and these arms get tired as appears to be happening, that can't be counted on. It is time for the middle relievers to step up and pitch for innings 6 and 7. I don't know if Zoom can be relied upon for more than 1-1/3 innings.(What a 11/3 that is though) I feel the strongest guy here(for middle innings) is Walker. And if Jones keeps it up he's your guy in Save situations. I like Pudge batting 1st. He will rise to the occasion. Believe it or not these guys want to win more than we do. Beat the Rangers Win or lose I love the Tigers….

One obvious observation. For most of the season Leyland has been getting 7 innings from his starters. As the season drags on, and these arms get tired as appears to be happening, that can’t be counted on. It is time for the middle relievers to step up and pitch for innings 6 and 7. I don’t know if Zoom can be relied upon for more than 1-1/3 innings.(What a 11/3 that is though)
I feel the strongest guy here(for middle innings) is Walker. And if Jones keeps it up he’s your guy in Save situations.

I like Pudge batting 1st. He will rise to the occasion.

Believe it or not these guys want to win more than we do.

Beat the Rangers

]]> By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10282 Joey C. Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:37:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10282 Nice Chris. I have to think that a move is in the back of Dumbro's mind given the injury to Polanco. Verlander did indeed look terrible last night. I'm furious he was left in as long as he was. He fought through his issues--he appeared to be laboring to me--and managed to get us through 5.5 with a lead and he was under 90 pitches. Take him out, give him a rest, give middle relief some work, and try to hold off Boston's lineup. It was like Leyland was testing the kid or something--which was okay earlier in the season, but let's not do it here with a youngster showing signs of fatigue. Nice Chris. I have to think that a move is in the back of Dumbro’s mind given the injury to Polanco.

Verlander did indeed look terrible last night. I’m furious he was left in as long as he was. He fought through his issues–he appeared to be laboring to me–and managed to get us through 5.5 with a lead and he was under 90 pitches. Take him out, give him a rest, give middle relief some work, and try to hold off Boston’s lineup.

It was like Leyland was testing the kid or something–which was okay earlier in the season, but let’s not do it here with a youngster showing signs of fatigue.

]]> By: Mike F http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10281 Mike F Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:36:18 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10281 There is no way in heck that the White Sox or Twins would ever let Soriano get by them on waivers. Especially with Placido down for possibly the rest of the season. It would be stupid if they didn't. There is no way in heck that the White Sox or Twins would ever let Soriano get by them on waivers. Especially with Placido down for possibly the rest of the season. It would be stupid if they didn’t.

]]> By: michael http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10276 michael Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:08:21 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10276 im a little worried about the way the tigers are running the bases. The base running has been terrible in the Boston series. Im glad we took two and pcked up 1 game on the black sox. The next 2 weeks will make or break this season. We should be able to 2 of 4 (or possibly 3 of 4) from texas. their pitching is abismal. we have to simply outslug them. the real challenge will be the 4 game set with the white sox. Leyland better find a way to take at least 2 from them. im a little worried about the way the tigers are running the bases. The base running has been terrible in the Boston series. Im glad we took two and pcked up 1 game on the black sox. The next 2 weeks will make or break this season. We should be able to 2 of 4 (or possibly 3 of 4) from texas. their pitching is abismal. we have to simply outslug them. the real challenge will be the 4 game set with the white sox. Leyland better find a way to take at least 2 from them.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10275 Andrew Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:07:37 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10275 I was hoping for 2 out of 3 for this series (as I am sure we all were). A sweep would have been great especially after the horrific weekend in Chicago, but through it all we still picked up a game on the White Sox. Not too shabby considering we could have gone into Boston with our heads hanging and gotten our butts kicked for three games. This team keeps showing me their heart and their willingness to gut out wins. I was hoping for 2 out of 3 for this series (as I am sure we all were). A sweep would have been great especially after the horrific weekend in Chicago, but through it all we still picked up a game on the White Sox.

Not too shabby considering we could have gone into Boston with our heads hanging and gotten our butts kicked for three games. This team keeps showing me their heart and their willingness to gut out wins.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10244 Kurt Thu, 17 Aug 2006 04:28:41 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10244 We all dream of Soriano. But I find it just about totally unlikely, so many things would have to fall into place. We all dream of Soriano. But I find it just about totally unlikely, so many things would have to fall into place.

]]> By: Chris Y. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10240 Chris Y. Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:36:33 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10240 Soriano placed on waivers: http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9605048 Anybody else think the Tigers might be a little more motivated to move on Soriano? Or Vidro for that matter (he's about to come off the DL)? Hmmm..... As for tonight: man, Verlander went form lights out to rather ordinary in the space of one skipped start. Are his mechanics that screwy? I thought they looked fairly effortless to me up until this point. Soriano placed on waivers:

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9605048

Anybody else think the Tigers might be a little more motivated to move on Soriano? Or Vidro for that matter (he’s about to come off the DL)?

Hmmm…..

As for tonight: man, Verlander went form lights out to rather ordinary in the space of one skipped start. Are his mechanics that screwy? I thought they looked fairly effortless to me up until this point.

]]> By: Scott http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10236 Scott Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:17:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10236 by the way, when Wells picked off Pudge in the 1st inning, he stepped towards home - it was a balk. No wonder he got picked off. by the way, when Wells picked off Pudge in the 1st inning, he stepped towards home – it was a balk. No wonder he got picked off.

]]> By: Steve http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10234 Steve Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:15:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10234 Still 2 out of 3, Looking to head home against a decent Texas team. I hope we are up for them and have some giddie up left. 10-0 Royals now. I would love once just freeking once to spank the W Sox like that. Once just once....... Steve Still 2 out of 3, Looking to head home against a decent Texas team. I hope we are up for them and have some giddie up left.

10-0 Royals now. I would love once just freeking once to spank the W Sox like that. Once just once…….

Steve

]]> By: Scott http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10232 Scott Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:10:06 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10232 we should've easily won this game - Wells was totally hittable tonight. One reason and 1 reason only we lost: too many ****** walks. How many walks scored? 3 or 4 anyway. And Mags should've caught that HR; just once I like to see him sacrifice his body for the team. All in all, a pathetic performance: we should've had 15 hits, and with no walks, they'd have gotten maybe 1 or 2 runs max........ :-( we should’ve easily won this game – Wells was totally hittable tonight. One reason and 1 reason only we lost: too many ****** walks. How many walks scored? 3 or 4 anyway. And Mags should’ve caught that HR; just once I like to see him sacrifice his body for the team. All in all, a pathetic performance: we should’ve had 15 hits, and with no walks, they’d have gotten maybe 1 or 2 runs max…….. :-(

]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10230 Kyle J Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:03:43 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10230 Well, this afternoon I said I'd be happy if the Tigers and White Sox both won today, so I guess I have to be happy if they both lose (go Royals). Would only have lost two games off the lead after getting swept by the White Sox and then going to play the Red Sox while they went to play the Royals. Side note: An article in this year's Football Propsectus (affiliated with Baseball Prospectus) shows that, in the NFL, the number of big wins a team has over bad teams is a better predictor than the number of close wins over good teams in terms of odds of advancing in the postseason. I wonder if a similar study has been conducted for baseball? Well, this afternoon I said I’d be happy if the Tigers and White Sox both won today, so I guess I have to be happy if they both lose (go Royals). Would only have lost two games off the lead after getting swept by the White Sox and then going to play the Red Sox while they went to play the Royals.

Side note: An article in this year’s Football Propsectus (affiliated with Baseball Prospectus) shows that, in the NFL, the number of big wins a team has over bad teams is a better predictor than the number of close wins over good teams in terms of odds of advancing in the postseason. I wonder if a similar study has been conducted for baseball?

]]> By: Steve http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10229 Steve Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:56:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10229 OK we need two, Who Sox are getting smoked by K/C (thanks guys). This has been a good series so far. Lots of everything on both side. I am not a Wells fan but he's 43 and still pitching in the MLB. Steve OK we need two, Who Sox are getting smoked by K/C (thanks guys). This has been a good series so far. Lots of everything on both side. I am not a Wells fan but he’s 43 and still pitching in the MLB.

Steve

]]> By: Kurt http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10224 Kurt Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:28:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10224 Wondering that exact same thing Joey. That made no sense. He clearly didn't have command enough, that screamed for relief. Wondering that exact same thing Joey. That made no sense. He clearly didn’t have command enough, that screamed for relief.

]]> By: Joey C. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10223 Joey C. Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:25:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/08/game-120-tigers-at-red-sox/#comment-10223 I gotta keep Tigers off my fantasy squad. Too freaking upsetting. I gotta keep Tigers off my fantasy squad. Too freaking upsetting.

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