Comments on: Tata down, Colon up http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kevin D http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2887 Kevin D Fri, 12 May 2006 21:04:48 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2887 I feel we may regret this move to send Tata to AAA. He pitched very well for his first experience in the Majors. If your looking to help a young talent continue to improve I would have left him in the Majors to face the best players in the game where he has had no major problems for such a young pither. Colon has done fine in the minors so far but his numbers in the Majors don't compare to what Tata has done thus far. So much for Leyland keeping the 25 best players. I feel we may regret this move to send Tata to AAA. He pitched very well for his first experience in the Majors. If your looking to help a young talent continue to improve I would have left him in the Majors to face the best players in the game where he has had no major problems for such a young pither. Colon has done fine in the minors so far but his numbers in the Majors don’t compare to what Tata has done thus far. So much for Leyland keeping the 25 best players.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2886 billfer Fri, 12 May 2006 20:44:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2886 Actually fly balls are converted to outs at a higher rate than ground balls. The difference being that flyballs that aren't outs are often extra base hits. Line drives are converted at the lowest rate (either you're in the right spot or you're not). Infield flies are converted at the highest rate. Good stuff though, thanks for keeping the site warm guys (Kyle et al) during my rehab assignment... Actually fly balls are converted to outs at a higher rate than ground balls. The difference being that flyballs that aren’t outs are often extra base hits.

Line drives are converted at the lowest rate (either you’re in the right spot or you’re not). Infield flies are converted at the highest rate.

Good stuff though, thanks for keeping the site warm guys (Kyle et al) during my rehab assignment…

]]> By: Matt in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2884 Matt in Toledo Fri, 12 May 2006 20:13:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2884 Thanks for the link. Defensive efficiency was what I was going by. I was going to say 13 "ROE"s in 1229 PAs doesn't worry me too much, but when Guillen is responsible for nine of them, that's a little bit of a problem. I'm still willing him to cut him some slack since he's been hitting so well. Thanks for the link. Defensive efficiency was what I was going by. I was going to say 13 “ROE”s in 1229 PAs doesn’t worry me too much, but when Guillen is responsible for nine of them, that’s a little bit of a problem. I’m still willing him to cut him some slack since he’s been hitting so well.

]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2880 Kyle J Fri, 12 May 2006 19:09:02 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2880 They lead MLB in defensive efficiency--turning balls in play into outs. Suspect this is partly due to the large number of ground balls. I would think that ground balls are converted into outs at a higher rate than fly balls. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=11582 They lead MLB in defensive efficiency–turning balls in play into outs. Suspect this is partly due to the large number of ground balls. I would think that ground balls are converted into outs at a higher rate than fly balls.

http://www.baseballprospectus......?cid=11582

]]> By: Matt in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2879 Matt in Toledo Fri, 12 May 2006 15:26:14 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2879 Aren't they also converting ground balls into outs better than just about everybody as well? Aren’t they also converting ground balls into outs better than just about everybody as well?

]]> By: Kyle J http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2866 Kyle J Thu, 11 May 2006 23:46:33 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2866 Stat of the day (warning: this will make you more concerned about Guillen's fielding troubles) The Tigers' pitchers lead the AL in ground out-to-air out ratio, and trail only two NL teams in that measure (Cardinals and Diamondbacks). And their ratio (1.53) is quite a bit higher than the second highest AL team (Blue Jays: 1.33). Ratios for our starting pitchers: Robertson: 2.19 Rogers: 1.76 Bonderman: 1.70 Maroth: 1.56 Verlander: 1.10 Stat of the day (warning: this will make you more concerned about Guillen’s fielding troubles)

The Tigers’ pitchers lead the AL in ground out-to-air out ratio, and trail only two NL teams in that measure (Cardinals and Diamondbacks). And their ratio (1.53) is quite a bit higher than the second highest AL team (Blue Jays: 1.33).

Ratios for our starting pitchers:
Robertson: 2.19
Rogers: 1.76
Bonderman: 1.70
Maroth: 1.56
Verlander: 1.10

]]> By: SJC in Detroit http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2864 SJC in Detroit Thu, 11 May 2006 19:06:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2864 Cathryn -- got a chance to walk down to see a Sea Dogs game last year against the Fisher Cats and loved the stadium and area (and Portland in general). Picked up a Sea Dog Tshirt. I'll be back in a couple weeks but it looks like I won't be able to come in early or stay late and catch a game. I liked the little green monster. Cathryn — got a chance to walk down to see a Sea Dogs game last year against the Fisher Cats and loved the stadium and area (and Portland in general). Picked up a Sea Dog Tshirt. I’ll be back in a couple weeks but it looks like I won’t be able to come in early or stay late and catch a game. I liked the little green monster.

]]> By: Jeff M http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2861 Jeff M Thu, 11 May 2006 18:20:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2861 <a href="http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&did=milb&cid=106" rel="nofollow">Seawolves roster</a> Seawolves roster

]]> By: Mack Avenue Tigers » Blog Archive » Rookies pitch 8 innings, Tigers win (finally?) http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2859 Mack Avenue Tigers » Blog Archive » Rookies pitch 8 innings, Tigers win (finally?) Thu, 11 May 2006 17:06:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2859 [...] Knobler also addressed Guillen’s error problem in another article. Colon up, Tata down, Detroit Tigers Weblog has the info. [...] [...] Knobler also addressed Guillen’s error problem in another article. Colon up, Tata down, Detroit Tigers Weblog has the info. [...]

]]> By: Cathryn http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2858 Cathryn Thu, 11 May 2006 17:03:16 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2858 Aw, no AA for Tata? I have tickets to the Sea Dogs/Seawolves series next month (I live within walking distance of the Sea Dogs' home field) and I was kind of hoping he'd be there. Oh, well. Guess I'll have to cheer madly for Tony G instead. (I just tried to find a roster at the Seawolves site to refresh my memory, and did you know that such information as a minor league roster is apparently too top-secret to be shared? Grr.) Aw, no AA for Tata? I have tickets to the Sea Dogs/Seawolves series next month (I live within walking distance of the Sea Dogs’ home field) and I was kind of hoping he’d be there. Oh, well. Guess I’ll have to cheer madly for Tony G instead. (I just tried to find a roster at the Seawolves site to refresh my memory, and did you know that such information as a minor league roster is apparently too top-secret to be shared? Grr.)

]]> By: Joey http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2855 Joey Thu, 11 May 2006 15:24:56 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2855 In case anyone missed this little tidbit: The Free Press reports that, according to Leyland, DY may be heading back to the DL. In case anyone missed this little tidbit:

The Free Press reports that, according to Leyland, DY may be heading back to the DL.

]]> By: Jeff M http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2850 Jeff M Thu, 11 May 2006 14:12:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2850 I know it's not a big deal at this point. I won't be concerned unless it's still a problem in July. I guess I was just expecting to hear him take a little more responsibility. Something more along the lines of "I know those were plays I should make. I know those were plays I can make. I know those are play I will make." Maybe he said that too. Knobler's the only one that knows. I know it’s not a big deal at this point. I won’t be concerned unless it’s still a problem in July. I guess I was just expecting to hear him take a little more responsibility. Something more along the lines of “I know those were plays I should make. I know those were plays I can make. I know those are play I will make.” Maybe he said that too. Knobler’s the only one that knows.

]]> By: Mike F http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2849 Mike F Thu, 11 May 2006 13:18:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2849 Leyland has been trying very hard to keep the team from getting too up or too down. I think that Guillen was talking himself up. He knows that he is a good shortstop and has played that way. I hope that he believes that this is just a bad streak in the field that he will adjust out of, and doesn't start thinking himself into trouble. Leyland has been trying very hard to keep the team from getting too up or too down. I think that Guillen was talking himself up. He knows that he is a good shortstop and has played that way. I hope that he believes that this is just a bad streak in the field that he will adjust out of, and doesn’t start thinking himself into trouble.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2847 billfer Thu, 11 May 2006 11:49:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2847 I think he knows. Other places I've heard that he was very dejected. I think in the quote he's not trying to make too much of it, but then again I'm just guessing. I think he knows. Other places I’ve heard that he was very dejected. I think in the quote he’s not trying to make too much of it, but then again I’m just guessing.

]]> By: Jeff M http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2844 Jeff M Thu, 11 May 2006 11:31:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/05/tata-down-colon-up/#comment-2844 <blockquote>"Things happen,'' said Guillen. "Guys on the bench don't make errors. Guys sitting in the stands don't make errors. You play every day, things happen.''</blockquote> I don't like that response one bit. That does not sound like a guy who knows he's underperforming. Hopefully, it was taken out of context.

“Things happen,” said Guillen. “Guys on the bench don’t make errors. Guys sitting in the stands don’t make errors. You play every day, things happen.”

I don’t like that response one bit. That does not sound like a guy who knows he’s underperforming. Hopefully, it was taken out of context.

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